***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[NotDonger]

As the first state hit hard by Delta, Missouri looks like it has peaked and is declining by case rate. Positivity is dropping, too.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Fish

Must show pic. JFC people...

Let them have it. Natural selection needs to be allowed to work a lot more than it has been for far too long.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by NotDonger

As the first state hit hard by Delta, Missouri looks like it has peaked and is declining by case rate. Positivity is dropping, too.

Wide spread use of ivermictin. Our local leaders looked at lewrockwell.404 and read about how it brought the cases down in India and knew it was time to implement it here.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Let them have it. Natural selection needs to be allowed to work a lot more than it has been for far too long.

exactly

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Otter

Know anyone who has injected this stuff?

No need to answer.

Fear porn. I really don't give a shit either way but just don't wonder why you're not believable anymore.

This covers several states... not like it's thousands of people, but still causing shortages.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/na...d-19-treatment

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinar...drug-shortages

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...ddm-story.html

Florida Poison Control reported 34 calls about ivermectin exposure in August as of Thursday. It’s had 65 reported exposures this year compared to 24 throughout all of 2020, according to Alfred Aleguas Jr., managing director of Tampa’s Florida poison information center. He attributes the increase to people taking large amounts of the drug for COVID-19 prevention.

https://www.wtva.com/content/news/CO...575166781.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ol/5583817001/

https://www.cbs17.com/community/heal...orse-dewormer/

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/...ls-about/?news

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

This covers several states... not like it's thousands of people, but still causing shortages.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/na...d-19-treatment

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinar...drug-shortages

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...ddm-story.html


https://www.wtva.com/content/news/CO...575166781.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ol/5583817001/

https://www.cbs17.com/community/heal...orse-dewormer/

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/...ls-about/?news

As we all deal with our late relatives and friends who have fallen from the horse dewormer injection crisis let us never forget "mr. hands" he certainly was as big as victim of the horse crisis as anyone.

Ban Horses!!!

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

This covers several states... not like it's thousands of people, but still causing shortages.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/na...d-19-treatment

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinar...drug-shortages

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...ddm-story.html


https://www.wtva.com/content/news/CO...575166781.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ol/5583817001/

https://www.cbs17.com/community/heal...orse-dewormer/

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/...ls-about/?news

Stupid people, won’t take a vaccine intended for humans, but they pay money to take a drug intended for livestock! If ladies are set on taking this product, they are welcome to come to our place and get in line with the cattle as they go through the chute, and we will drench you along with the cattle. Only thing you have to be like the cattle,in their birthday suits when going through. :-)

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by farmerchief

Stupid people, won’t take a vaccine intended for humans, but they pay money to take a drug intended for livestock! If ladies are set on taking this product, they are welcome to come to our place and get in line with the cattle as they go through the chute, and we will drench you along with the cattle. Only thing you have to be like the cattle,in their birthday suits when going through. :-)

[R Clark]

That pour on will get a little hot , that human skin is thinner than an old cow.I’d bet ain’t no difference in the injectable for cows than the pills for humans

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Let them have it. Natural selection needs to be allowed to work a lot more than it has been for far too long.

Unfortunately in the world we live in Natural Selection includes too many people who live in a screwed up media bubble and no, I don't think society as a whole should just turn their backs.

For starters, some of these people are still raising kids...

[suzzer99]

I’ve never had a “covid debate” with another doctor or scientist. The data is plentiful and relatively easy to interpret. Every doctor I know got vaccinated as soon as they could and follows public health guidelines. Of course there are weirdos, probably a bunch of them… but they were weird before covid.

There are lots of people with letters after their names and you can probably find a bunch of statistics that support whatever hot take you want. But when it comes to the doctors that actually take care of patients in hospitals and clinics, there isn’t any debate. We are vaccinated. We wear masks. We implement mitigating behaviors as recommended by our public health experts. We don’t find the high-quality data confusing or controversial.

The solutions are clear and simple. The implementation of these solutions is challenging and fraught with complicated social dynamics. But let’s not confuse that with the idea that doctors are debating whether or not the mRNA vaccine should be universally implemented. That is not the case. There is absolutely no debate whatsoever in the legitimate medical community.

They're having a debate on twoplustwo.com over the WSOP requiring proof of vaccination this year. This is from an ob/gyn I know personally.

[O.city]

Cases, hospitalizations nosediving here thankfully.

Vaccinations on an upshoot.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Cases, hospitalizations nosediving here thankfully.

Vaccinations on an upshoot.

Same for up here in NW Missouri. Except for the vaccinations. We're still sitting at like 20 some percent.

Will be interested to see what impact school starting has on cases, etc

[Strongside]

Sorry if already posted, but I thought this was interesting.

People who are fully vaccinated with Moderna's two-dose COVID-19 vaccine may have significantly higher amounts of antibodies than those who received the Pfizer vaccine https://t.co/UnYNY6vTMx

— KMOX St. Louis News (@kmoxnews) August 31, 2021

[NotDonger]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Sorry if already posted, but I thought this was interesting.

People who are fully vaccinated with Moderna's two-dose COVID-19 vaccine may have significantly higher amounts of antibodies than those who received the Pfizer vaccine https://t.co/UnYNY6vTMx

— KMOX St. Louis News (@kmoxnews) August 31, 2021

Each Moderna shot is 100 micrograms. Each Pfizer shot is 30 micrograms. I'd imagine that has something to do with it.