***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Just catch it and develop that crazy immunity you might possibly get from infection and being vaccinated. You'll be Super Loochy

That and I have a trip to Hawaii in about 6 weeks, so let's get it, be done, and have fun.


Also, I've been thinking about going to the feed store and buying some pour-on for my son.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by loochy

I'll just catch it then. There's no need to drag this out.

This.

It would be horrible to outcast my son over this. Now is when he needs his dad the most.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by notorious

This.

It would be horrible to outcast my son over this. Now is when he needs his dad the most.

That's how I feel...BUT he barely feels sick at all. His chief complaint is his stuffy nose, which always drives him nuts. It's something he complains about anyway from allergies. For now, he's happy to stay home and play minecraft.


Strangely enough, he caught this from grandma (my mom). She came to visit last week and she started having symptoms the night she left. We were always worried to death about her catching this (76 years old, very overweight, congestive heart failure, high blood pressure), but it's no big deal for her either....just some sniffles and mild fatigue. My dad has it too now, and he just coughs a couple of times every 20 minutes.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by loochy

That's how I feel...BUT he barely feels sick at all. His chief complaint is his stuffy nose, which always drives him nuts. It's something he complains about anyway from allergies. For now, he's happy to stay home and play minecraft.


Strangely enough, he caught this from grandma (my mom). She came to visit last week and she started having symptoms the night she left. We were always worried to death about her catching this (76 years old, very overweight, congestive heart failure, high blood pressure), but it's no big deal for her either....just some sniffles and mild fatigue. My dad has it too now, and he just coughs a couple of times every 20 minutes.

That’s great news. Kids are tough.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by notorious

This.

It would be horrible to outcast my son over this. Now is when he needs his dad the most.

I wasn't implying he lock his son in the dungeon and pass him bread and water. Just saying it's probably not a good idea to wrestle around with and other shit we dads would normally do.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

I wasn't implying he lock his son in the dungeon and pass him bread and water. Just saying it's probably not a good idea to wrestle around with and other shit we dads would normally do.

Back when I was a kid in 1918 and got the Spanish flu, my father left me at the bottom of a wishing well and I was forced to drink rainwater and beg for breadcrumbs from strangers who kept throwing pennies at me.

Not content with a warm dungeon and bread and water? ****ing millenials.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

I wasn't implying he lock his son in the dungeon and pass him bread and water. Just saying it's probably not a good idea to wrestle around with and other shit we dads would normally do.

Of course you didn’t mean that. “Stay away from your child” is pretty clear, though.

If my young kids are sick and they want to snuggle, come on over and snuggle. It’s not like we aren’t surrounded by each other’s germs to begin with.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by notorious

Of course you didn’t mean that. “Stay away from your child” is pretty clear, though.

If my young kids are sick and they want to snuggle, come on over and snuggle. It’s not like we aren’t surrounded by each other’s germs to begin with.

Ha ha...my mother-in-law suggested that my wife and I wear masks in the house I laughed at her and made fun of her. She's one of those mask worshipers though. She was appalled that my wife still has to go in to work today (their policy is if no symptoms show, then you come in).

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Horrible and really underappreciated by the "it's just the flu" crowd.

What are some of the most common long covid symptons you're observing?

Much like Covid itself, the long haul after effects vary from individual to individual; what is common, however, is the impact it is having on people's lives. To qualify for physical disability waiver services (at least in KS) you must meet the following criteria:

Be at least 16 years of age, and no older than 64 years;
Be determined disabled by the Social Security Administration;
Need assistance to perform activities of daily living;
Meet the Medicaid nursing facility threshold score;
Individuals who have been determined eligible for the Intellectual/Developmental Disability Waiver (I/DD) ARE NOT eligible for the Physical Disability waiver;
Be financially eligible for Medicaid.

I've highlighted the two big criteria. In other words, the effects of long haul Covid are severe enough that you require assistance to perform activities of daily living (ALDs). ADLs are the everyday tasks an individual performs. They include:

Dressing
Eating
Toileting
Bathing
Grooming
Mobility

What is alarming is that we are seeing people who were either asymptomatic or had what would be considered mild cases of Covid-19 develop long haul effects. So you may get over Covid and think you are fine, but then months later find out that you can't do the same basic tasks that you used to be able to do. In fact, the people who are showing up in the system now, have severe enough disability that they qualify for nursing home care...and that is where a lot of young folks are winding up because there is no capacity in the Home and Community Based Service system to support them.

This is incredibly bad for a multitude of reasons: For one, it costs over twice as much to support a person in a nursing home than it does in the community--so as a taxpayer, you lose. Secondly, as I think we all know, nursing homes (and any congregate setting) are vectors of transmission for Covid, so the likelihood catching Covid again skyrockets--which could exacerbate your already debilitating condition. Thirdly, forcing someone into a nursing home so that they get the support and services they need is, quite frankly, illegal due to the Supreme Court Olmstead decision.

[lawrenceRaider]

More good news for the vaccinated.

https://news.yahoo.com/breakthough-i...121727306.html

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Good news, everyone!

What What In The Butthttps://t.co/xH8vSs9MAH

— CryptoJones (@AaronKClark) September 1, 2021

How does one go about getting this, uh, treatment? I mean, I want to avoid it, I'm just asking. For a friend.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How does one go about getting this, uh, treatment? I mean, I want to avoid it, I'm just asking. For a friend.

1. Sell your soul to Bill Gates
2. Profit

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How does one go about getting this, uh, treatment? I mean, I want to avoid it, I'm just asking. For a friend.

Hey doc, it's not due for another 8 months, but can we go ahead and knock out the colonoscopy while I'm here, and just uh, leave it up there for a few days?

[O.city]

We have conducted a daily longitudinal analysis of SARS-CoV-2 vaccine breakthrough infections in two universities, UIUC and NU. We compared viral culture outcomes with nasal and saliva PCR results for up to 15 days and this is what we found. A thread ��

— Pamela P. Martinez (@PamelaPMartinez) September 2, 2021

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by O.city

We have conducted a daily longitudinal analysis of SARS-CoV-2 vaccine breakthrough infections in two universities, UIUC and NU. We compared viral culture outcomes with nasal and saliva PCR results for up to 15 days and this is what we found. A thread ��

— Pamela P. Martinez (@PamelaPMartinez) September 2, 2021

It's too bad this data isn't going to be terribly useful regarding Delta.