***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Just as they do with other requirements, like a dress code.

Except you can take off a shirt or a pair of safety glasses. Can't undo an injection.

Lawsuits be a coming.

[meleknistra]

I just came back from Germany. You need to prove your vaccination if you want to sit inside the restaurant, bar or coffee shop. Takeaway is ok. There where few more places i was asked for a prove.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Yes. That is bad enough. But you also missed this part.

Biden plans to sign an executive order requiring all government employees be vaccinated against Covid-19, with no option of being regularly tested to opt out. The President will also sign an order directing the same standard be applied to employees of contractors who do business with the federal government

Very first words in the thread title non-political. This is a political post.

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Very first words in the thread title non-political. This is a political post.

Wait so people can go on and on how we should refuse medical care to the unvaccinated because those people are evil morons or something.

Not political

But I post front page news on a covid mandate that effects Millions.

You think I crossed the line on political.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Wait so people can go on and on how we should refuse medical care to the unvaccinated because those people are evil morons or something.

Not political

But I post front page news on a mandate that effects Millions.

You think I crossed the line on political.

your post specifically references a political figure and their policies,, medical procedure theories have absolutely nothing to do with politics.

[TLO]

Saw a group of "protestors" in town today. One had a sign that said " No clot shot "

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by sedated

your post specifically references a political figure and their policies,, medical procedure theories have absolutely nothing to do with politics.

Denying health care to people is not medical procedure theories.

My post was about a vaccine mandate on covid. This is a discussion about covid. I can agree or disagree with that mandate. My personal politics have nothing to do with that.

If you try and censor everyone with a different opinion as political then it is just an echo chamber for what you want to hear.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by TLO

Saw a group of "protestors" in town today. One had a sign that said " No clot shot "

Is that a thing?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Otter

Except you can take off a shirt or a pair of safety glasses. Can't undo an injection.

Lawsuits be a coming.

Why would anyone want to undo a vaccination?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by meleknistra

I just came back from Germany. You need to prove your vaccination if you want to sit inside the restaurant, bar or coffee shop. Takeaway is ok. There where few more places i was asked for a prove.

I'd definitely want to sit in the restaurant.

(And don't tell me if all German restaurants don't have barmaids like this.)

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'd definitely want to sit in the restaurant.

(And don't tell me if all German restaurants don't have barmaids like this.)

Die frauen sind toll.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'd definitely want to sit in the restaurant.

(And don't tell me if all German restaurants don't have barmaids like this.)

If that was a real German barmaid, the beer stein would be larger...

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

If that was a real German barmaid, the beer stein would be larger...

From my last trip to Germany 4lbs a beer about , look at that pussy in the back.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Saw a group of "protestors" in town today. One had a sign that said " No clot shot "

At least it didn't say No Money Shot.

[suzzer99]

My cousin in Trinidad won’t get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you’re comfortable with ur decision, not bullied

— Nicki Minaj (@NICKIMINAJ) September 13, 2021

Cousin's friends have just been getting destroyed by vaccines.

Looks like she's not quite finished running assays and compiling data:

They want you to get vaccinated for the Met. if I get vaccinated it won’t for the Met. It’ll be once I feel I’ve done enough research. I’m working on that now. In the meantime my loves, be safe. Wear the mask with 2 strings that grips your head & face. Not that loose one ��♥️

— Nicki Minaj (@NICKIMINAJ) September 13, 2021