***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Nirvana58]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

So you can either get the vaccination or Covid.

Sounds like it. You are going to build immunity one way or the other.

[Nirvana58]

Since transmission of covid for vaccinated and unvaccinated has been a hot topic around here. I found this article interesting. I have not looked over the study yet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...cid=entnewsntp

[Monticore]

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...-all-canadians

Chief medical officers still hedging on whether COVID-19 booster shots needed for all Canadians
'We are not currently considering the need for the additional shot or booster for the definition of fully vaccinated': Tam

Given there is currently no evidence of widespread waning of protection against severe disease in the general population who have been vaccinated against COVID-19 in Canada, boosters for this group are not required at this time but we will continue to monitor vaccine effectiveness and other data to inform the need in the future.”

[Katipan]

😂🤣

https://www.9news.com/article/news/l...2-74608b46b3fa

The department said the incentive program will offer 10 Ramen noodle soups or a combination of one coffee and five Ramen noodle soups for each COVID vaccine a person receives. Inmates who have already received a vaccine dose while in DSD custody will also be offered these items for each dose.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Katipan

😂🤣

https://www.9news.com/article/news/l...2-74608b46b3fa

Ramen is like gold when you're behind bars.

I found this rather shocking. These people are not reading the news.

23.6% of the jails' 1,624 inmates were fully vaccinated, plus 4.1% who had been partially inoculated.

[Lzen]

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Lzen

That guy looks like he smells like stale beer and cabbage.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Originally Posted by TLO

That guy looks like he smells like stale beer and cabbage.

That dude was boning Katy Perry.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

That dude was boning Katy Perry.

Life isn't fair

[Otter]

Originally Posted by TLO

That guy looks like he smells like stale beer and cabbage.

Aspirin, Ibuprofen, and Tylenol are also given to horses to name a few drugs that humans and horses share.

Let people make their own decisions or **** off Nazis.





And for some reason cabbage does come to mind with him.

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I was waffling too until I went to see my primary care doctor last week. He told me to definitely get it especially since my 2nd dose was Jan 6th. He said he got his booster and flu shot at the same time with no issues and he is about the same age as me. So I said **** it I will do it.

I will admit I am having alot more immune responses from the booster than I ever did with the first 2 Pfizer shots. I have some arm pit pan, muscle aches and cold chills so far after 28 hrs.

My in-laws in their 70's got the booster with no issues.

I will not be getting a booster after my issues with the 2nd shot.

[dirk digler]

If 2020 was the year of the vaccine, 2022 may be the year of #COVID19 therapeutics.

Pfizer (via press release) says it's new anti-viral pill cuts severe COVID infection by 89%, while Merck's pill reportedly cuts severe infection by 50%.https://t.co/wBmvi0E5Ra by @BerkeleyJr

— Isaac Bogoch (@BogochIsaac) November 5, 2021

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Eureka

My in-laws in their 70's got the booster with no issues.

I will not be getting a booster after my issues with the 2nd shot.

Pfizer?

You can mix/match a J&J shot or Moderna shot.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

If 2020 was the year of the vaccine, 2022 may be the year of #COVID19 therapeutics.

Pfizer (via press release) says it's new anti-viral pill cuts severe COVID infection by 89%, while Merck's pill reportedly cuts severe infection by 50%.https://t.co/wBmvi0E5Ra by @BerkeleyJr

— Isaac Bogoch (@BogochIsaac) November 5, 2021

The year of therapeutics that make the right people $$$$.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

If 2020 was the year of the vaccine, 2022 may be the year of #COVID19 therapeutics.

Pfizer (via press release) says it's new anti-viral pill cuts severe COVID infection by 89%, while Merck's pill reportedly cuts severe infection by 50%.https://t.co/wBmvi0E5Ra by @BerkeleyJr

— Isaac Bogoch (@BogochIsaac) November 5, 2021

While the early flu comparisons weren't particularly accurate, it does seem like that's the trajectory this thing is on in the long run. I'll be endemic. There will probably be annual vaccines. But between those and therapeutics, hopefully it'll get it down to the level that we can collectively live with.