***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Sorry to hear it!

I had a breakthrough infection in October, right at the 7-month mark from my first vaccine dose.

I came through with what felt like a bad sinus infection for 2 days (what led to me getting tested) but otherwise did fine. I was fortunate. No breathing problems. No fever.

If you have an oxygen sensor, keep an eye on your blood oxygen level (check it while resting sometime in the morning, before bed). What I was told was as long as you stay above 95%, you’re golden. If it dips below that AND you can feel yourself having trouble breathing, keep a closer eye on it and go see a doctor if it dips below 90%. Might be worth a call to your primary doc if you have one to see their direction for you.

^ above assumes you’re vaccinated. If you’re not, I’d check into getting monoclonal antibodies treatment.

Guess I'll chime in. I got vaxxed in March.

I tested positive on Nov 22nd. Same as you it was basically a head cold for the most part but I did lose my smell but its coming back and I had a little vertigo but its gone. Not fun but nothing too terrible. ****ed up our holiday week of course.

Wife has covid now, she got monoclonal antibodies yesterday and her Dr prescribed her ivermectin (that shit is $100 now BTW) Z-pak, and Dexamethasone. She seems to be doing better than I did with it so far.

All I did was take Mucinex D. Should have called my Doc.

I'm not planning on getting another shot, I'll roll with my antibodies.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by RocKhawks

Just a quick update on my health. It is now day 10 since contracting Covid. It was a roller coaster, one minute i feel fine, the next i would have a fever of 102. It was up and down. Then i developed a horrible dry cough, and just couldn't stop coughing. This was about 3 days ago. I called urgent care and they said i should go to the hospital and they will put me on a ventilator for my cough, which they seemed to think is Covid Pneumonia. I was absolutely not going on a ventilator. I called my PCP, and he prescribed an inhaler and pills for my cough. As of today, i haven't had a fever for over 24 hours, and my cough is actually "productive", and not as violent. Things are looking up!

They would put you on a ventilator for a cough? Yeah, I don't think so...


Something surely got misunderstood there.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Guess I'll chime in. I got vaxxed in March.

I tested positive on Nov 22nd. Same as you it was basically a head cold for the most part but I did lose my smell but its coming back and I had a little vertigo but its gone. Not fun but nothing too terrible. ****ed up our holiday week of course.

Wife has covid now, she got monoclonal antibodies yesterday and her Dr prescribed her ivermectin (that shit is $100 now BTW) Z-pak, and Dexamethasone. She seems to be doing better than I did with it so far.

All I did was take Mucinex D. Should have called my Doc.

I'm not planning on getting another shot, I'll roll with my antibodies.

I had this too. Never had it before, but it felt really concerning at the time. Felt like I had to immediately lie down.

[007]

This has me just feeling exhausted all day. Really stuffy and taste is all metallic. I haven't lost taste or smell but its definitely screwed up. Oxygen levels are still normal so there is that.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by 007

This has me just feeling exhausted all day. Really stuffy and taste is all metallic. I haven't lost taste or smell but its definitely screwed up. Oxygen levels are still normal so there is that.

Well that's good. (not really, but you know what I mean)

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

It's very ironic that people trust/believe in doctors and science when it comes to a major surgery but not in a vaccine that tens of millions of people have gotten with no adverse effects

Those same surgeries mandated by the government? Asking for a friend

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Those same surgeries mandated by the government? Asking for a friend

Since doctors get paid to do surgeries and some doctors have done sketchy stuff in the past there should be just as must distrust in doctors as there is in big pharma no? the government didn't produce the vaccines , if they mandated you had to drink a beer ( or random thing people take no questions asked on a daily basis) every day would you suddenly not trust beer( or other stuff..) anymore?

[MahomesMagic]

Over 250K+ Americans die a year due to medical errors so I would say that people should be also skeptical of hospitals and doctors.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Since doctors get paid to do surgeries and some doctors have done sketchy stuff in the past there should be just as must distrust in doctors as there is in big pharma no? the government didn't produce the vaccines , if they mandated you had to drink a beer ( or random thing people take no questions asked on a daily basis) every day would you suddenly not trust beer( or other stuff..) anymore?

If a mediocre politician mandated I drink a beer a day I would immediately become skeptical of beer, and the beer they were advocating I take.

Coercion works on some people. For someone like me it will draw push back.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by RocKhawks

Just a quick update on my health. It is now day 10 since contracting Covid. It was a roller coaster, one minute i feel fine, the next i would have a fever of 102. It was up and down. Then i developed a horrible dry cough, and just couldn't stop coughing. This was about 3 days ago. I called urgent care and they said i should go to the hospital and they will put me on a ventilator for my cough, which they seemed to think is Covid Pneumonia. I was absolutely not going on a ventilator. I called my PCP, and he prescribed an inhaler and pills for my cough. As of today, i haven't had a fever for over 24 hours, and my cough is actually "productive", and not as violent. Things are looking up!

Great news and progress. I’m on about Day 5 of this shit since my symptoms occurred, and I actually think I’m starting to turn a slight corner. I’ve never had a fever, but I’ve had absolutely no energy and severe aches and pains. I do agree, the dry cough sucks. This morning, my aches were a lot less noticeable, and the coughing has reduced. My energy is still shitty, but that could also be because I’m old

Keep fighting, Rockhawks. You have our prayers!

[O.city]

I'm kinda thinking the "it's milder" in regards to omicron may be a little premature. I'd guess it's more so mild because basically everyone there has immunity from either a previous infection or immunization.

So if that's the case, areas with naïve populations will still get whacked.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by 007

This has me just feeling exhausted all day. Really stuffy and taste is all metallic. I haven't lost taste or smell but its definitely screwed up. Oxygen levels are still normal so there is that.

I'm always curious when I hear of someone getting Covid if they are vaccinated. If you have already stated that I apologize but I don't want to go through this entire thread to find out. Are you vaxxed and if so, when did you get it? Which one?

[007]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I'm always curious when I hear of someone getting Covid if they are vaccinated. If you have already stated that I apologize but I don't want to go through this entire thread to find out. Are you vaxxed and if so, when did you get it? Which one?

Moderna. 1/4 and 2/4 of 2021. No booster.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Those same surgeries mandated by the government? Asking for a friend

If not getting the surgery can somehow kill other people, then sure.

The really frustrating part of this whole thing is that it's NOT ABOUT YOU.

It's about spreading it to other people who might die.

If everybody who CAN get the shot gets the shot, then this is the flu.

And I could get back to my life.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

If a mediocre politician mandated I drink a beer a day I would immediately become skeptical of beer, and the beer they were advocating I take.

Coercion works on some people. For someone like me it will draw push back.

all politicians are idiots but what they say doesn't change the product itself and the beer a day mandate would probably be more harmful than the vaccine one and there would be less pushback.