***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

A buddy just made a FB post basically accepting that his wife isn't going to survive. She's been in a medically induced coma for a couple weeks, I think. They weren't vaccinated. He told my wife that he regrets it but they didn't know what to believe. They also weren't monitoring her O2 levels when she got sick. I don't think they really believed it was real until it was too late. They're good people. They're smart people. I can't understand all the unnecessary death. I feel terrible for him and their children. ****. This would be the fourth death of people I personally know within the past two weeks. All unvaccinated. Two in their 60's, this one 50ish, and one in her early 20's.

People can start by believing actual data and not bullshit spewed on social media. Sorry for your friend, the needless suffering is soulcrushing.

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[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

A buddy just made a FB post basically accepting that his wife isn't going to survive. She's been in a medically induced coma for a couple weeks, I think. They weren't vaccinated. He told my wife that he regrets it but they didn't know what to believe. They also weren't monitoring her O2 levels when she got sick. I don't think they really believed it was real until it was too late. They're good people. They're smart people. I can't understand all the unnecessary death. I feel terrible for him and their children. ****. This would be the fourth death of people I personally know within the past two weeks. All unvaccinated. Two in their 60's, this one 50ish, and one in her early 20's.

That really stinks. Sorry to hear that.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

A buddy just made a FB post basically accepting that his wife isn't going to survive. She's been in a medically induced coma for a couple weeks, I think. They weren't vaccinated. He told my wife that he regrets it but they didn't know what to believe. They also weren't monitoring her O2 levels when she got sick. I don't think they really believed it was real until it was too late. They're good people. They're smart people. I can't understand all the unnecessary death. I feel terrible for him and their children. ****. This would be the fourth death of people I personally know within the past two weeks. All unvaccinated. Two in their 60's, this one 50ish, and one in her early 20's.

This doesn't reconcile.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by eDave

This doesn't reconcile.

I understand what you're saying but they definitely are intelligent people. She was a teacher and by all accounts a great one.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

This doesn't reconcile.

I have people in my life like this too. Very intelligent people that think the vaccine is pure evil. I don't fully understand it.

[Demonpenz]

Smart dumbasses

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by TLO

I have people in my life like this too. Very intelligent people that think the vaccine is pure evil. I don't fully understand it.

Even the most intelligent people can have blind spots to obvious bullshit. Lately that has been causes by political ideology/tribalism, on either side of the aisle.

I hurt my foot back in 2020 and went to a well-established podiatrist to get everything checked out. He did fine with my treatment. On my last appt for some strange reason he brought up the election (this was in October 2020) and proceeded to regurgitate the most batshit insane conspiracy theories that I have ever heard that I guarantee he got from some memelord on facebook. Luckily my appointment was over so I just walked away from him shaking my head.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

A buddy just made a FB post basically accepting that his wife isn't going to survive. She's been in a medically induced coma for a couple weeks, I think. They weren't vaccinated. He told my wife that he regrets it but they didn't know what to believe. They also weren't monitoring her O2 levels when she got sick. I don't think they really believed it was real until it was too late. They're good people. They're smart people. I can't understand all the unnecessary death. I feel terrible for him and their children. ****. This would be the fourth death of people I personally know within the past two weeks. All unvaccinated. Two in their 60's, this one 50ish, and one in her early 20's.

This sucks man. Hate it for you

[prhom]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Test

That’s a great idea. Too bad there’s still not enough capacity to do it at the required level.

I got a few symptoms today and went to schedule a test here in Denver. No available time slots until Tuesday. I scheduled it anyway, but hell, going by the 5 day rule from the start of symptoms I’ll be almost good to go again.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Swanman

People can start by believing actual data and not bullshit spewed on social media. Sorry for your friend, the needless suffering is soulcrushing.

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It would be nice if the BS was restricted to social media. However, you can also find a lot of flat out contradictory 'factual' information on cable TV shows and other more official type of sources that really should be fact checked and really should be called out when they flat out lie.

But they aren't.

So I'm a bit sympathetic about how easy it is to live in an echo chamber.

[Mr. Wizard]

We go back to school Monday and I pray we make it through this semester without mandated masks and or online school. I teach high school and community college welding and it’s been a struggle but the kids are amazing and resilient. Much more so than us old dog teachers. I was always forgetting my mask yet, our school of 2000 plus, seldom had kids who were not wearing them.
Please lord let us make it through the semester!

[Dunit35]

My daughter fell behind last year during Covid. She started 3rd grade at a 2nd grade level. Teachers said it could’ve been due to being at home so much when schools were shut down.

We sent her to a tutoring academy. She spent the entire semester two days a week tutoring. She caught up just fine but we spent $1500 for the school. Makes me wonder how many other kids fell behind but couldn’t afford to do what we did.

[O.city]

Lotta kids fell behind. Had to.

Gotta make sure schools stay open. Too important.

This no smell or taste thing sucks major asshole

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by O.city

This no smell or taste thing sucks major asshole

The good news is that you could eat major asshole and not taste or smell it :-)

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

The good news is that you could eat major asshole and not taste or smell it :-)

Loss of smell and taste would take getting used to but is manageable.

Would much rather get that than the disease transferred by ticks that makes you allergic to red meat.