***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Perineum Ripper]

Boone and Cole county MO have confirmed cases now

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by TLO

Correct. It has to be sent to the CDC to be "confirmed"

Local tests no longer need to be confirmed by the CDC as of a few days ago.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Myself and several other posters some who were chased off warned posters in this thread a while ago to take this seriously. They didn't want to hear it.

Now look....

Look at what?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Best friend’s mom is in a hospital in Osage beach.

Fine Sunday morning by Monday morning terrible cough, can’t breathe, 104.2 fever.

They won’t test her because she hasn’t traveled but she’s negative for everything else so they are going to treat her as though she has it.

Doing that could possibly really **** up the statistics

This is borderline criminal that they're still using if you've traveled or not as criteria. We know damn well it's here.

[suzzer99]

From a guy on another forum who does business with a guy in China.

We have back to work since the beginning of March, except the workers who visited Wuhan or stayed in Wuhan on CNY holidays.

Here in China, everyone put the highest notice and follow the advice like wearing masks, don't stay close, wash hands frequently, take body emperature several times everyday and stay at home as possible. I think it's not that bad as I imagined before, seems everything is under control and we feel safe.

Masks man. Everyone needs to be wearing them now. Surgical is fine if not use a bandana. Something has to be better than nothing. People don't understand - it's not for you, it's to protect others from you.

Yeah gonna be a hard sell. But we have to do it.

[Hammock Parties]

Someone's gonna get shot for wearing a bandana and walking into a 7-11. ****.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This is borderline criminal that they're still using if you've traveled or not as criteria. We know damn well it's here.

any level of common sense would tell you that’s no longer applicable as any determitive reason to get a test or not.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

$1000 trump bucks in my pocket and the market bounces back in a couple months.

Take bae out in a black dress and pretend I'm rich for a night.

She’s gonna know you’re a buster.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

She’s gonna know you’re a buster.

She's been to my place. She has no delusions.

Not like we can go anywhere for awhile anyway. lol

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

From a guy on another forum who does business with a guy in China.



Masks man. Everyone needs to be wearing them now. Surgical is fine if not use a bandana. Something has to be better than nothing. People don't understand - it's not for you, it's to protect others from you.

Yeah gonna be a hard sell. But we have to do it.

Hell, I'd have no problem rolling with a mask. But do you remember how in the beginning they told us to not wear masks because they don't do anything? I mean damn, how could it NOT help? Sure, it's not 100%,but it's something.

[KCUnited]

Not an economist but seems like it's the supply side that's lagging, so giving people more money to spend...on what exactly?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

She's been to my place. She has no delusions.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by loochy

Hell, I'd have no problem rolling with a mask. But do you remember how in the beginning they told us to not wear masks because they don't do anything? I mean damn, how could it NOT help? Sure, it's not 100%,but it's something.

Menials are ahead of the curve:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rave...=2133&bih=1052

[Spott]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Not an economist but seems like it's the supply side that's lagging, so giving people more money to spend...on what exactly?

Right now there’s not a whole lot to spend money on, besides more Chiefs Super Bowl gear.

[Fish]

So, some rough math...

~209,000,000 US citizens over the age of 18
~19,000,000 millionaires+
$1000/person

So excluding millionaires, that's ~$190B? Wow.