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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:50 PM   #5941
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It's not an imaginary argument. In spite of the fact no one in the first round took Geno, and he has generally stunk up the joint and been one of the worst starting QBs in the league, you and Clay continue to drive the Geno train. You two are conducting the Geno Amtrak. Everyone but you two and SDH has bailed on it yet you continue to conduct it.
He has proven ability to run and throw. It takes some time to become a good QB in this league. You would have to be a real dumbass to write off someone with his ability after 13 games. He may never make it, but people that write him off this early have an agenda.
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:50 PM   #5942
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Who said they were? I said those were his best games.

Unlike most of the people in this thread it's not all or nothing on these guys for me. There is some fluidity and shades of gray with players.
Considering how much you dislike him I would have figured. Amazing that his "worst" games stats wise have been wins and his best have been losses. When the defense steps up he does less. When our defense fails he elevates his game.
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:50 PM   #5943
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Hey, lets play " how bad was Alex Smith as a rookie."

I'll start.

He ended the year with a 40.2 quarterback rating.

That's not for one bad game that was a 40 rating, that was his season rating.
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:51 PM   #5944
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He has proven ability to run and throw. It takes some time to become a good QB in this league. You would have to be a real dumbass to write off someone with his ability after 13 games.
Not writing him off at all, but maybe, just maybe he is not as good as previously thought. Maybe the Chiefs were right in not taking him #1 overall.
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:52 PM   #5945
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Hey, lets play " how bad was Alex Smith as a rookie."

I'll start.

He ended the year with a 40.2 quarterback rating.

That's not for one bad game that was a 40 rating, that was his season rating.
He was also on a far worse team than Geno.
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Considering how much you dislike him I would have figured. Amazing that his "worst" games stats wise have been wins and his best have been losses. When the defense steps up he does less. When our defense fails he elevates his game.
My mind can be changed unlike others in this thread that won't acknowledge a solid showing by Geno.

However, your statement is bullshit. I highly doubt that they want to have games decided by 1 possession if they could have games similar to today, especially with Andy Reid coaching. They weren't attempting to dial it back and not move the ball and scored points
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:56 PM   #5947
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When Geno plays decent Clay and his trusty sidekick Big Cat Daddy are going to pimp him all day. When he plays poorly they will be mysteriously silent or deflect it to talking about Alex Smith. It's their thing.
Sums it up nicely
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My mind can be changed unlike others in this thread that won't acknowledge a solid showing by Geno.

However, your statement is bullshit. I highly doubt that they want to have games decided by 1 possession if they could have games similar to today, especially with Andy Reid coaching. They weren't attempting to dial it back and not move the ball and scored points
So a light switch suddenly went on with him? I doubt that. I blame playcalling in the first nine games more than Alex Smith playing like crap.
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So a light switch suddenly went on with him? I doubt that. I blame playcalling in the first nine games more than Alex Smith playing like crap.
Well, they also took out the shit on the line. Regardless they weren't not trying to score
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Hey, lets play " how bad was Alex Smith as a rookie."

I'll start.

He ended the year with a 40.2 quarterback rating.

That's not for one bad game that was a 40 rating, that was his season rating.
Hard to succeed when your starting are WRs Brandon Lloyd and Arnaz Battle and TE Billy Bajema.
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Well, they also took out the shit on the line. Regardless they weren't not trying to score
I agree with you on this. I think they finally realized what the problem was and it was not the guy under center.
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Hard to succeed when your starting are WRs Brandon Lloyd and Arnaz Battle and TE Billy Bajema.
Who are the great receivers geno is playing with?
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And these losses are Alex Smith's fault how?


Alex Smith doesn't win if the other team puts up points. It's just the way it is.
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He was also on a far worse team than Geno.
His backs were Frank Gore and Kevin Barlow.

His receivers were Brandon Lloyd, Jonnie Morton and Arnaz Battle. Th previous year in KC, Morton had 800 yards receiving at 14.5 per catch. Lloyd had 700 yards.

I'd take that group over what NY currently has.

I mean shit, the guy had a running game and there was enough talent at receiver to move the offense.

I'm not nessesarily defending Geno or slamming Alex with that, either. Just showing that all rookie quarterbacks have their moments and its not entirely any kind of signal to their long term effectiveness.
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I agree with you on this. I think they finally realized what the problem was and it was not the guy under center.
Could be, but I'd like to see more than 3 games before I'm sold.
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