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Old 01-12-2021, 09:09 AM   #1
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Meh.. if it was early season Baker I would agree with you. His play recently has actually been really good. The guy has been in three different systems since being drafted, and think this offense is finally clicking with him.

Another year with the same coach in the same system will do wonders. Would be disappointing if he turned out to be more of a Alex Smith type QB.
Not to mention if we actually get a defense that can stop someone, and Baker can form any chemistry with OBJ next year. Baker will join the elite qbs of the league . His jump back to his rookie year form this year the second half of the season has been phenomenal to watch.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:07 PM   #2
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It's a blessing and a curse. The browns probably have their version of Alex Smith. Not good enough to take you all the way but seems good enough to give the team some consistent stability. He doesn't look to me like an FQB but he seems like the stopgap Cleveland needs.
I think that's a LITTLE unfair. He's not Mahomes, but he still has plenty of potential. He at least throws the ball down field from time to time.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:30 PM   #3
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I think that's a LITTLE unfair. He's not Mahomes, but he still has plenty of potential. He at least throws the ball down field from time to time.
Alex Smith isn't bad either. It's a compliment. Baker can do more things than Alex but that doesn't mean he should. He's at his best in the limited way Stefanskis using him. Making less mistakes, scripted reads, creative misdirection. Open it up too much and I feel like he can hit a real Jake plummer streak.
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:07 AM   #4
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It's a blessing and a curse. The browns probably have their version of Alex Smith. Not good enough to take you all the way but seems good enough to give the team some consistent stability. He doesn't look to me like an FQB but he seems like the stopgap Cleveland needs.
This is a whole lot of yikes right here. Baker is absolutely a franchise qb. The Browns are lucky they didnt destroy this poor kid with the first two years of his career. Stefanski and Baker are going to win a lot of games together? Win the super bowl? Hard to say because with Josh Allen, and Mahomes in the AFC for the next 10-15 years, its going to be really hard for anyone outside of Buffalo, or KC to realistically win the super bowl. Those two qbs are that good. But Baker is much better than people give him credit for.
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Old 01-12-2021, 10:39 AM   #5
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This is a whole lot of yikes right here. Baker is absolutely a franchise qb. The Browns are lucky they didnt destroy this poor kid with the first two years of his career. Stefanski and Baker are going to win a lot of games together? Win the super bowl? Hard to say because with Josh Allen, and Mahomes in the AFC for the next 10-15 years, its going to be really hard for anyone outside of Buffalo, or KC to realistically win the super bowl. Those two qbs are that good. But Baker is much better than people give him credit for.
Ive given him way more credit than others would. He is a game manager. A more aggressive, but also more mistake prone version of Alex smith. What I've seen Stefanski do brilliantly is work around the limitations of his QB. Lots of misdirection, bootlegs, scripted plays. It also helps that defenses are loading the box. But he's still reckless... Not as much with INTs anymore but taking some really stupid sacks. He's not going to be great at progressions. He takes more of an Alex Smith first read or bust approach. Sometimes he uses athleticism to buy time on a scramble drill. Others he holds the ball for an eternity and takes an unnecessary sack.

I think baker is worth extending for the same reason Alex Smith was good for us early even if I never wanted him long term. But with what CLE is building that should definitely not stop them from aggressively doing better just like kc did.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:54 PM   #6
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There's plenty of revenge scenarios to go around for years to come lol
Super Bowl 1 revenge is a real possibility this year. Send all our remaining, living SB 1 vets into the grave with joy.
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Love how we're 36 posts in and no Browns fans yet. Also love the benevolence of Chiefs fans. "Congrats! You had a good season and should be proud and happy even though it's over next week."
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Love how we're 36 posts in and no Browns fans yet. Also love the benevolence of Chiefs fans. "Congrats! You had a good season and should be proud and happy even though it's over next week."
I'm not entirely sure we've ever had a Browns fan on here outside of ClevelandBronco. And even for him, he's only half Browns fan, and these days I'm not sure if he's a football fan at all.
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I'm not entirely sure we've ever had a Browns fan on here outside of ClevelandBronco. And even for him, he's only half Browns fan, and these days I'm not sure if he's a football fan at all.
And that one guy who likes Alex Smith and the 49ers and Chiefs and WFT and has a Chiefs avatar and is a Browns fan.
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And that one guy who likes Alex Smith and the 49ers and Chiefs and WFT and has a Chiefs avatar and is a Browns fan.
LOL. I really was not going to waste time addressing this, but it is way too funny. You guys and your care for who I like, and the shit you make up is comical as hell. Never liked the WFT, did and still do love Alex. Came here because of Alex, stayed because i genuinely liked the Chiefs and most of the fans here, but Ive supported the Browns since 99 when my life long Browns fan grandfather passed away. But i like it better. We will just assume i like everyone, and you, a guy i have NEVER spoken to in 8 years can keep up the weirdo behavior. I find it funny as hell.
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Love how we're 36 posts in and no Browns fans yet. Also love the benevolence of Chiefs fans. "Congrats! You had a good season and should be proud and happy even though it's over next week."
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Love how we're 36 posts in and no Browns fans yet. Also love the benevolence of Chiefs fans. "Congrats! You had a good season and should be proud and happy even though it's over next week."

I imagine most are still hungover from celebrating their Superbowl win last night. Give it a day or two.
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maybe theres not that much internet in cleveland


i was honestly expecting more of a burst of cleveland fans


or a spatter / squirt of turds as it is known
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maybe theres not that much internet in cleveland


i was honestly expecting more of a burst of cleveland fans


or a spatter / squirt of turds as it is known
Well, and hear me out if you have heard this before, but there just is not a lot of knowledge that this place exists. I found this place because someone else did. It is an awesome place to come troll and have fun, but its just not out there a lot compared to Redditt and places like that.
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