Defense: Will We Still Be in the 3-4 in 2013?

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by scott free

Where did it get them?

A superbowl and many winning seasons. Its the offense that was the reason they didnt go further.. Im not asking Lovie to be a head coach, only control the defense.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

If we do go back to the 43 id like to see us bring in Lovie Smith. His defenses are always outstanding.

You need so much more elite level play nowdays to run the tampa-2 effectively IMO.

Your corners have to be outstanding in run support, physical to re-route WRs at the LOS and smart in understanding your gaps in zone and where soft spots are, for example.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Sorter

You need so much more elite level play nowdays to run the tampa-2 effectively IMO.

Your corners have to be outstanding in run support, physical to re-route WRs at the LOS and smart in understanding your gaps in zone and where soft spots are, for example.

Bears defense is soo much more than just tampa 2. Also we have one outstanding corner who excels in run support in Flowers.

The bears always manage to just plug in corners opposite tillman as their scheme is corner friendly. Theyve had a bunch of guys who have had good years playing in Lovies D

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Bears defense is soo much more than just tampa 2. Also we have one outstanding corner who excels in run support in Flowers.

The bears always manage to just plug in corners opposite tillman as their scheme is corner friendly. Theyve had a bunch of guys who have had good years playing in Lovies D

Yes but the primary coverage they use is the tampa 2. They mix it up and cloud but typically in base front, they're playing tampa 2.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Yes but the primary coverage they use is the tampa 2. They mix it up and cloud but typically in base front, they're playing tampa 2.

Bit of an over simplification. They use a bunch of coverages including man.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Bears defense is soo much more than just tampa 2. Also we have one outstanding corner who excels in run support in Flowers.

The bears always manage to just plug in corners opposite tillman as their scheme is corner friendly. Theyve had a bunch of guys who have had good years playing in Lovies D

The base defense is Tampa 2.

We don't have the personnel in the front 7 to field it. Forget about the corners.

[Sorter]

Chicago has elite players for the T2 in both corners, Briggs, Urlacher, and Peppers. Shea isn't chopped liver and Roach is serviceable. You also have to have rangy safeties as they're responsible for 2 halves of the field for most of your base calls.

[Wyndex]

I could see us being a hybrid/multiple front defense. 2 downed linemen/3/4 with different coverage packages

[boogblaster]

we can't cover with 4 LBs .. but cant rush with 3 DL ... we screwed .....

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't know. But a lot of the success of the Reid hire will depend on who they hire for defensive coordinator, and I really hope the way he shitcanned Castillo isn't going to come back to haunt him.

My big concern with Reid right now is that he doesn't have a defensive identity. That's actually an understatement. He has been completely clueless on what kind of defense he wants.

I'm also very, very worried that Heckert will move the team to a 4-3. I don't want to again fall into the trap where we have a front office that only knows how to run one scheme. Keep in mind that Heckert took a 2-gap 3-4 under Mangini and turned it into a 4-3. For that matter... keep in mind that Heckert hired Jauron, who is now a "free agent."

I hope there isn't croneyism, because it's possible our top 2 guys could be Todd Bowles or Dick Jauron. And neither of those options are exciting at all.

[Setsuna]

There was the same discussion on Jags board about switching to 3-4 instead of staying in 4-3. What do the Broncos and 49ers run?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

There was the same discussion on Jags board about switching to 3-4 instead of staying in 4-3. What do the Broncos and 49ers run?

Broncos play a 4-3 utilizing primarily an under front, iirc. 49ers are 3-4, can't recall what they line up in base front wise (odd, over, over-ed, etc)

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Broncos play a 4-3 utilizing primarily an under front, iirc. 49ers are 3-4, can't recall what they line up in base front wise (odd, over, over-ed, etc)

Thanks man! Now to figure out what that all means!

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Thanks man! Now to figure out what that all means!

odd front from the Ravens. Unlike our odd front, their DEs align in the 4-tech straight over the tackle as opposed to us which our DEs align in the 5-tech.



Under front from the Ravens. Weak side DE is playing the 3 tech, with a shaded NT, and the other DE playing the 4-tech. The strongside DE typically has 2-gap responsibilities.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Sorter

odd front from the Ravens. Unlike our odd front, their DEs align in the 4-tech straight over the tackle as opposed to us which our DEs align in the 5-tech.

4 tech straight over the tackle? Isn't that a 5 tech? When I played, 4 was inside shade, 5 straight up, 6 outside shade... for the tackle. Guard was 1,2,3 and Tight end was 7,8,9. Could have changed over the last 10 years though.