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Old 02-08-2018, 10:54 AM   #1
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I don't eat it very often but when I do it's tomato sauce with ground Italian sausage, mushrooms and sometimes zucchini and summer squash, topped with Parmesan and Mozzarella cheese. I prefer it over rice rather than noodles.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:58 AM   #2
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:36 AM   #3
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I don't eat it very often but when I do it's tomato sauce with ground Italian sausage, mushrooms and sometimes zucchini and summer squash, topped with Parmesan and Mozzarella cheese.
I make the same exact thing but also with bell peppers (and onions/garlic/spices), and serve with rotini.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:48 AM   #4
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I make the same exact thing but also with bell peppers (and onions/garlic/spices), and serve with rotini.
Yeah, forgot to mention the red bell peppers and spices. I like onion too, but it doesn't like me, so it's usually just a litte onion powder in the spices.
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I don't eat italian made by anyone who calls the gravy sauce. That is all.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:57 AM   #6
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I don't eat italian made by anyone who calls the gravy sauce. That is all.
Spaghetti (what we typically think of as spaghetti anyway) isn't Italian. It's distinctly American.
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Spaghetti (what we typically think of as spaghetti anyway) isn't Italian. It's distinctly American.
Not sure who you think "we" is but there are plenty who like their italian foods the italian way. Though yeah, spaghetti is an American thing too.
Anyway, great thread and I don't want to derail.

So mangiare everyone, mangiare.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:06 AM   #8
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Also, did you guys know that filipinos put a shit ton of sugar in their spaghetti? The sauce comes out super sweet.
My dad used to cut his spaghetti sauce with a noticeable amount of sugar to help prevent reflux. It always seemed to work.
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I don't eat italian made by anyone who calls the gravy sauce. That is all.
wait im confused you're supposed to call it gravy?
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:16 AM   #10
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wait im confused you're supposed to call it gravy?
No. People are ****ing clueless about Italian food. It's also not called "marinara." There's no such thing as "marinara sauce."

It's called "sugo di pomodoro." Which literally means "sauce of tomato."

This is how you cook tomato sauce.

Cut white onion.
Put them in low heat olive oil
add tomatoes
add fresh basil
season with salt

That's it. That's the whole sauce. There's no meat. No meat balls. No sausage or peppers or oregano or shrimp or breaded chicken or anything else that makes it disgusting.

Additionally, "spaghetti" is a type of pasta, thicker than linguine. When you say you don't think spaghetti has to have... well... spaghetti noodles, it makes no sense. It is not synonymous with pasta.

But the biggest thing you likely do wrong - that almost every "italian" restaurant not run by an actual Italian chef does wrong - is that YOU DON'T SALT THE WATER. YOU HAVE TO PUT SALT IN THE PASTA WATER.

How much salt? Two handfuls. The water pasta cooks in should taste like the ocean. Pasta - even spaghetti - has actual flavor to it. When you just cook it in plain water, it's bland and gross. So, you add a bunch of shit to it to make it marginally interesting. The entire concept of italian food is based on simple recipes using few ingredients. If you add 20 things to the sauce, you're missing the entire point of why the food is good, inexpensive, and delicious.

There are other recipes for spaghetti noodles, like clam sauce (red or white), mussels, carbonara (the best), or Spaghetti alla Norma (southern recipe using eggplant).

throw away your jars of sauce.
Keep your polpette (meatballs) separate from your pasta.
Salt your water.

Open your world.
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No. People are ****ing clueless about Italian food.
What Americans typically think of as "spaghetti" isn't Italian.
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No. People are ****ing clueless about Italian food.
That would be affirmative.

That being said, I've never had Italian food that knocked my socks off.

I was in Chicago for an audit one time and the gals I traveled with found this ****ing high dollar Italian outfit everyone raved about. The pasta was meh and the Italian Sausage I bought was really ****ing undercooked. I mean make me dead undercooked. It took like an hour and half to get the undercooked one so I just didn't eat it and left.

So while I do know very little about Italian food, I've had a decent shot of it and even when I go spend big money I'm not impressed. So you'll just have to forgive my ignorance in this instance.
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That would be affirmative.

That being said, I've never had Italian food that knocked my socks off.

I was in Chicago for an audit one time and the gals I traveled with found this ****ing high dollar Italian outfit everyone raved about. The pasta was meh and the Italian Sausage I bought was really ****ing undercooked. I mean make me dead undercooked. It took like an hour and half to get the undercooked one so I just didn't eat it and left.

So while I do know very little about Italian food, I've had a decent shot of it and even when I go spend big money I'm not impressed. So you'll just have to forgive my ignorance in this instance.
I can't remember the name of that place, but I went to a place in DC once that blew me away. Very pricey, but they had "pasta mamas" on the first floor making the pastas - was pretty fascinating to sit there and watch someone with a ton of experience making pasta from scratch.
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That would be affirmative.

That being said, I've never had Italian food that knocked my socks off.

I was in Chicago for an audit one time and the gals I traveled with found this ****ing high dollar Italian outfit everyone raved about. The pasta was meh and the Italian Sausage I bought was really ****ing undercooked. I mean make me dead undercooked. It took like an hour and half to get the undercooked one so I just didn't eat it and left.

So while I do know very little about Italian food, I've had a decent shot of it and even when I go spend big money I'm not impressed. So you'll just have to forgive my ignorance in this instance.
I need to take you to Garrozo's in KC. There is also a place down in Southeast Kansas that serves Italian food country style. It's in the middle of ****ing nowhere.

My mother is from an Italian family. I can eat Italian for every meal and be a happy man.
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No. People are ****ing clueless about Italian food. It's also not called "marinara." There's no such thing as "marinara sauce."
My grandmother's parents came over from the boot. Tell me more about Italian food.
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