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Old 02-10-2022, 09:31 AM  
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The first offseason domino to fall...

In 2 weeks, give or take, we will know of the first offseason question to be answered.

February 22nd to March 8th marks the period in which teams can use the franchise tag.

We'll know what they intend to do with Orlando Brown, at least for 2022 and possibly beyond.

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Old 02-11-2022, 09:34 AM   #46
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Just keep in mind that tagging him also simply gives them more time to get a deal done. The Chiefs have done it in the past - Will Shields comes to mind.
I agree with the tag. I still would give him the option to negotiate with other teams, with the trade option. See what pans out. If we sign him back. It's a win. If another team offers us an unbelievable draft pick in return, it's a win.
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Old 02-11-2022, 09:49 AM   #47
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Worst case, the tag buys you another year to see if you REALLY want to sign him. If he costs more next year, it's because he's worth it. Not a fan of just giving out a mega contract until we know that he's truly the long-term solution. I'd like to see if he improves in pass blocking with another off-season in our program.
I'm of the same opinion. Last year was the 1st year he'd played LT on a regular basis and he was just a little above OK in my book. I'm willing to give him a chance, but at this point, $20-22M is out. Just because you want to play LT doesn't mean you should get LT top dollar. I want to play PMII money QB in the NFL, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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Old 02-11-2022, 10:09 AM   #48
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I agree with the tag. I still would give him the option to negotiate with other teams, with the trade option. See what pans out. If we sign him back. It's a win. If another team offers us an unbelievable draft pick in return, it's a win.
Except now we’re back to needing a LT again.
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:02 AM   #49
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Except now we’re back to needing a LT again.
Thuney was not bad out there in his one appearance vs the Bengals.

Again, I am fine with Brown. But I am also fine with exploring options and weighing the +/- of what turns out best for the long term of the team.

If Brown would net us a pick in the 10-20 range in the draft, the +/- could be interesting.
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:04 AM   #50
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Thuney was not bad out there in his one appearance vs the Bengals.

Again, I am fine with Brown. But I am also fine with exploring options and weighing the +/- of what turns out best for the long term of the team.

If Brown would net us a pick in the 10-20 range in the draft, the +/- could be interesting.
You're not getting a mid-first rounder for him. If they tag him, it's to control him or work out a deal later this offseason. Nobody is going to want to give up the picks to get him at this point.

As far as Thuney, you don't want to get into that. He's an all-pro guard, you don't **** with that.
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:07 AM   #51
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You're not getting a mid-first rounder for him. If they tag him, it's to control him or work out a deal later this offseason. Nobody is going to want to give up the picks to get him at this point.

As far as Thuney, you don't want to get into that. He's an all-pro guard, you don't **** with that.
We also didn't have Humphrey and Smith when we signed Thuney.

And who is to say we couldn't get a high pick for Brown? Philly has 3 picks in that range.
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:30 AM   #52
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We absolutely do.
Please explain, as of now we only have a little more than $4 million in cap space.

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Old 02-11-2022, 11:33 AM   #53
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Please explain, as of now we only have a little more than $4 million in cap space.

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The tag doesn't actually affect the cap until after the league season starts and you have time to get under the cap after the league season starts.

Basically, they tag him, re-sign/re-structure other players, get under the cap, and then move forward.
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Old 02-11-2022, 12:18 PM   #54
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You can't trade Brown because he's not under contract.
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Old 02-11-2022, 12:20 PM   #55
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You can't trade Brown because he's not under contract.
If they tag him, they can trade him once the league year starts.
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Just keep in mind that tagging him also simply gives them more time to get a deal done. The Chiefs have done it in the past - Will Shields comes to mind.
Didn't they do it with Jones just a couple of years ago?
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They also did the Jared Allen tag and trade. I guess we'll see where it goes. I'd probably do like a 3 year deal and try to find better/equivalent in the next couple drafts.
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They also did the Jared Allen tag and trade. I guess we'll see where it goes. I'd probably do like a 3 year deal and try to find better/equivalent in the next couple drafts.
With Mahomes at QB, getting a better LT in the draft isn't likely to happen. Good left tackles generally go in the top half of the first.

We won't ever be picking high enough, barring some nightmare scenario that involves Mahomes, and quite frankly if that happens, we won't be worried about LT at all.
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Didn't they do it with Jones just a couple of years ago?
Did they end up tagging Jones or just threaten to use it? I can't find much about the history of the franchise tag unfortunately.
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