Kiper's mock -- 1-16 - Page 4

jlscorpio · 01-22-2009, 01:00 AM

I'm not wild over Sanchez, but Kiper probably knows more than I do. IMO, you take BPA in the top 5, if not top 10. I think DE is our biggest need, but that would be a huge reach at #3 overall, and can probably be addressed in Rd 2.

1.Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia

aturnis · 01-22-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise

Actually I think that's the way the Chiefs go- with Smith. (Andre that is)

Mark my words. That will NOT happen. No way in hell the Chiefs dedicate that much money to TWO positions on the o-line. No way, no how.

Mecca · 01-22-2009, 09:23 PM

Only on Chiefsplanet could Mark Sanchez losing 1 game, and having a 34-10 TD-INT number be considered a disappointing season..I swear some people say the dumbest things.

Also I'm sorry Big 12 homerism the Chiefs should not in any way be considering Michael Crabtree.

ChiefsCountry · 01-22-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Also I'm sorry Big 12 homerism the Chiefs should not in any way be considering Michael Crabtree.

I got some intresting draft stats for you guys. I'll do it tommorrow, kind of busy tonight. Just keep that Big 12 thing in mind.

Mecca · 01-22-2009, 09:41 PM

Michael Crabtree is Dwayne Bowe with slightly better hands.....

That's why this team shouldn't be looking at him, if he was the elite Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson level ok different situation then.

I should probably throw Moss up there since he was really the platinum ultimate standard for grading a WR on talent, his character concerns dropped him but his pick likely goes down as one of the biggest steals in modern draft history..every single team that passed on him should kick themselves to this day.

blaise · 01-22-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Michael Crabtree is Dwayne Bowe with slightly better hands.....

That's why this team shouldn't be looking at him, if he was the elite Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson level ok different situation then.

I should probably throw Moss up there since he was really the platinum ultimate standard for grading a WR on talent, his character concerns dropped him but his pick likely goes down as one of the biggest steals in modern draft history..every single team that passed on him should kick themselves to this day.

Other than the Colts.

Sam Hall · 01-22-2009, 11:18 PM

Stafford looks legit, but I get the feeling some people want a quarterback just for the sake of drafting a quarterback. I agree with Pete Carroll that Sanchez shouldn't have come out yet.

DrRyan · 01-22-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Michael Crabtree is Dwayne Bowe with slightly better hands.....

That's why this team shouldn't be looking at him, if he was the elite Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson level ok different situation then.

I should probably throw Moss up there since he was really the platinum ultimate standard for grading a WR on talent, his character concerns dropped him but his pick likely goes down as one of the biggest steals in modern draft history..every single team that passed on him should kick themselves to this day.

I agree with you on the Crabtree assessment. IMO Maclin would be a much better compliment to Bowe than Crabtree. I am in now way, shape or form suggesting drafting Maclin with our pick, but feel his speed would be a better fit than Crabtree.

I am not big on Sanchez or Stafford. Of the two, I like Stafford better and if QB is the route Pioli goes I trust his judgment until he starts reminding me of Carl(likely never).

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-22-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

I'm fine with Sanchez if he impresses at the combine and the Chiefs sign some offensive linemen in free agency.

Like who? Have you looked at the eligible free agents? I'd say there are two guys the Chiefs might target and both are guards, Jahri Evans and Jason Brown.

There is no long term solution at right tackle or center. They'll need to come from the draft.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-22-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Stafford looks legit, but I get the feeling some people want a quarterback just for the sake of drafting a quarterback. I agree with Pete Carroll that Sanchez shouldn't have come out yet.

Yeah, because you watched him progress for four years at USC?

I'd wager that you've seen him play in ONE game, tops.

FWIW, I talked to a pretty powerful booster at a party last night who told me that Carroll is pissed because he wanted the National Championship this year and none of his QB's are even close to being as good as Sanchez. Especially since they're losing so many defensive players.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-22-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Sanchez is way too risky to pick with #3. Dude had a disappointing season by almost all accounts until he cut loose in the Rose Bowl. That's not enough to warrant such a high pick.

WHAT?

**cdcox** · 01-23-2009, 12:40 AM

best mock ever

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 12:42 AM

Dane, I understand that Sanchez was your guy at USC, but there's good reason to be leery of him.

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Like who? Have you looked at the eligible free agents? I'd say there are two guys the Chiefs might target and both are guards, Jahri Evans and Jason Brown.

There is no long term solution at right tackle or center. They'll need to come from the draft.

I have looked at the free agents, and there were several good names out there. Who knows if those guys will resign with their current team. I don't think anybody can say for sure who the Chiefs might try to sign.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-23-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

I have looked at the free agents, and there were several good names out there. Who knows if those guys will resign with their current team. I don't think anybody can say for sure who the Chiefs might try to sign.

Give us examples.

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 01:03 AM

I choose to believe Pete Carroll when he says Sanchez doesn't have enough experience. I think USC loses too many key defensive players to win a national title next year, even if Sanchez had returned. If Carroll is nervous about having a new starting QB next year, than every coach in America who has a new starting QB should be terribly frightened.

01-22-2009, 01:00 AM
jlscorpio Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Casino cash: $10004900	Kiper's mock -- 1-16 I'm not wild over Sanchez, but Kiper probably knows more than I do. IMO, you take BPA in the top 5, if not top 10. I think DE is our biggest need, but that would be a huge reach at #3 overall, and can probably be addressed in Rd 2. 1.Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia 2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama 3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC 4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech 5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest 6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor 7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri 8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St. 10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St. 11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. 12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College 13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas 14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois 15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St. 16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	Michael Crabtree is Dwayne Bowe with slightly better hands..... That's why this team shouldn't be looking at him, if he was the elite Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson level ok different situation then. I should probably throw Moss up there since he was really the platinum ultimate standard for grading a WR on talent, his character concerns dropped him but his pick likely goes down as one of the biggest steals in modern draft history..every single team that passed on him should kick themselves to this day.
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Sam Hall UNSTOPPABLE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KC area Casino cash: $9895185	Dane, I understand that Sanchez was your guy at USC, but there's good reason to be leery of him. __________________
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Sam Hall UNSTOPPABLE Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KC area Casino cash: $9895185	I choose to believe Pete Carroll when he says Sanchez doesn't have enough experience. I think USC loses too many key defensive players to win a national title next year, even if Sanchez had returned. If Carroll is nervous about having a new starting QB next year, than every coach in America who has a new starting QB should be terribly frightened. __________________
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