News Indian Group Suggests Chief Wahoo is Racist! - Page 4

**gblowfish** · 10-10-2013, 03:22 PM

Actually, I think the "New York Jews" hat is kinda cool. I'd like to have one. Maybe as a Christmas...errr...Hanukkah present???

http://gamedayr.com/sports/mlb/ameri...s-logo-racism/

displacedinMN · 10-10-2013, 05:14 PM

Just in the MPLS paper today

A new strategy in the movement to replace the Washington Redskins’ long-maligned moniker has taken root in Minnesota, the place a coalition of Native American groups say is ground zero for eradicating the NFL logo and mascot they consider as defamatory as the “N-word.”

Change the Mascot, a campaign consisting of organizations including the Minneapolis-based American Indian Movement, asked the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority to refrain from printing or broadcasting the Redskins’ name or logo within the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome during the team’s Nov. 7 matchup against the Minnesota Vikings. Doing so within a publicly owned facility, they reasoned, violates federal labor laws, hate-speech protections and the civil rights of Native Americans. Failure to abide by the request could result in legal action ranging from a temporary injunction to a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Indian children, said Change the Mascot member Alan Yelsey.

Minnesota’s large Indian population, combined with a soon-to-be rebuilt publicly owned stadium, and the support of Rep. Betty McCollum, co-chair of the Congressional Native American Caucus and an outspoken critic of the name, make for the perfect elements to make the first attempt, he added.

“There’s no difference between the “R-word” and the “N-word,” Yelsey said. “There’s no reason why this discriminatory and damaging term needs to be used when alternatives exist. We’re not trying to change the name, although we prefer it changed. We’re saying it’s illegal to use the name in a public facility and place of employment, and to ensure its use is the very definition of institutional racism.”

MSFA Chair Michele Kelm-Helgen said Thursday that the board heard and understood the concerns at last week’s meeting, but that it’s too early to make a move.

“The NFL has very specific rules about what happens when teams play in our facility, and that’s what we’re looking at with the NFL and our attorneys,” she said. “At this point, I’m not even sure what our options would be.”

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Stanley Nickels · 10-10-2013, 05:15 PM

JFC, there is a particular breed of posters that seems to infiltrate every goddamn message board with bullshit "LIBTARD PC POLICE ALERT" and similarly ridiculous strawman arguments. Nobody -- NOBODY -- made this about the Chiefs until you did. It's about TWO INSTANCES, where a name (Redskins) and a logo (Cleveland Indians) are offensive. All this thread lacks now is an anecdote of how you once met a Native American, and he wasn't offended, so it's fine.

Brock · 10-10-2013, 05:20 PM

My friend Furry Bear of the Heyyawannablowme tribe is ok with it

**fan4ever** · 10-10-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

JFC, there is a particular breed of posters that seems to infiltrate every goddamn message board with bullshit "LIBTARD PC POLICE ALERT" and similarly ridiculous strawman arguments. Nobody -- NOBODY -- made this about the Chiefs until you did. It's about TWO INSTANCES, where a name (Redskins) and a logo (Cleveland Indians) are offensive. All this thread lacks now is an anecdote of how you once met a Native American, and he wasn't offended, so it's fine.

So, because the Chiefs aren't mentioned in this particular action, anticipating a future manuever to do the same thing to the Chiefs is irresponsible??? Yeah, don't get that.

Brock · 10-10-2013, 05:25 PM

There is absolutely nothing at all remotely racial about "Chiefs", so there's that.

**fan4ever** · 10-10-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

There is absolutely nothing at all remotely racial about "Chiefs", so there's that.

Says you.

displacedinMN · 10-10-2013, 05:28 PM

How about changing the name to reflect the current situation

The Washington Standstill
This is their logo

LiveSteam · 10-10-2013, 05:29 PM

Cool story. My kid is Sioux & she ****ing loves it!

Brock · 10-10-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

Says you.

Says anyone with a functioning brain.

BlackHelicopters · 10-10-2013, 05:32 PM

R.I.P. Chiefs moniker

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-10-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Technically, the mascot is a wolf.

To immunize KC against the same arguments that are currently working against the Redskins, the Hunt family would have to rename the stadium, get rid of War Paint, change the logo and actively discourage fans from doing the chop.

NONE of that is racist.

Chiefs fans stole the Chop from Seminole fans.

RINGLEADER · 10-10-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

well technically the word "Chief" has other meanings besides Native Americans. Fire Chiefs, Police Chiefs, etc.

Of course the whole arrowhead thing may hurt us

Screw 'em. Just change the arrowhead to a police badge.

Stanley Nickels · 10-10-2013, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fan4ever

So, because the Chiefs aren't mentioned in this particular action, anticipating a future manuever to do the same thing to the Chiefs is irresponsible??? Yeah, don't get that.

Right, because the slippery slope is always inevitable. You think any group with half a brain is going to aggressively pursue changing everything even remotely offensive? No, they know that will only end up alienating people and hurting their cause. You've got to go Occam's Razor on this: they find two racist names offensive and of no value to their historical heritage, and they want change. Period.

GloucesterChief · 10-10-2013, 05:58 PM

The chief name can still be used. Instead of using the Native America theme the team can simply change it to a fire chief or police chief or can reference another group. For example if you go European you get:

As your new logo.

Just Passin' By · 10-10-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

There is absolutely nothing at all remotely racial about "Chiefs", so there's that.

It's about being "offensive", you moron. It doesn't have to be racial. The "Fighting Sioux" wasn't racist. Hell, they originally banned "Seminoles", before that was reversed.

Christ, kick start your second brain cell, for ****'s sake.

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displacedinMN It was not a fair catch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $2452630	Just in the MPLS paper today A new strategy in the movement to replace the Washington Redskins’ long-maligned moniker has taken root in Minnesota, the place a coalition of Native American groups say is ground zero for eradicating the NFL logo and mascot they consider as defamatory as the “N-word.” Change the Mascot, a campaign consisting of organizations including the Minneapolis-based American Indian Movement, asked the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority to refrain from printing or broadcasting the Redskins’ name or logo within the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome during the team’s Nov. 7 matchup against the Minnesota Vikings. Doing so within a publicly owned facility, they reasoned, violates federal labor laws, hate-speech protections and the civil rights of Native Americans. Failure to abide by the request could result in legal action ranging from a temporary injunction to a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Indian children, said Change the Mascot member Alan Yelsey. Minnesota’s large Indian population, combined with a soon-to-be rebuilt publicly owned stadium, and the support of Rep. Betty McCollum, co-chair of the Congressional Native American Caucus and an outspoken critic of the name, make for the perfect elements to make the first attempt, he added. “There’s no difference between the “R-word” and the “N-word,” Yelsey said. “There’s no reason why this discriminatory and damaging term needs to be used when alternatives exist. We’re not trying to change the name, although we prefer it changed. We’re saying it’s illegal to use the name in a public facility and place of employment, and to ensure its use is the very definition of institutional racism.” MSFA Chair Michele Kelm-Helgen said Thursday that the board heard and understood the concerns at last week’s meeting, but that it’s too early to make a move. “The NFL has very specific rules about what happens when teams play in our facility, and that’s what we’re looking at with the NFL and our attorneys,” she said. “At this point, I’m not even sure what our options would be.” Abby Simons • 612-673-4921 __________________ #investigatecarlcheffers
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GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $1336454	The chief name can still be used. Instead of using the Native America theme the team can simply change it to a fire chief or police chief or can reference another group. For example if you go European you get: As your new logo.
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