Nebraska Nebraska bubble watch thread - Page 4

Titty Meat · 03-02-2011, 09:08 PM

I have some questions and I don't want to hi-jack any of the other schools threads.

For those who say who cares

Nebraska only competes for the big dance about as often as a solar eclipse appears so this is very thread worthy.

Can anyone explain the log jam if Mizzou, Baylor, and Nebraska all finish 8-8? How do they determine the seeding?

**Saulbadguy** · 03-04-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I expected much more this year.

The "blame the Big XII" excuses are warming up as we speak.

KC_Connection · 03-04-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

The "blame the Big XII" excuses are warming up as we speak.

I don't blame the Big 12 for losing in the tournament. I blame the crapshoot of the tournament itself.

**alnorth** · 03-04-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

So, just for conversation's sake....

What if they win at CU and then get to the Big 12 championship game but lose? IMO, that's what it will take for them to get in the NCAA tourney. Nothing less. And even then, its still a shaky proposition.

That would do it, and I don't think it would be particularly shaky. Nebraska wins their next 4 games, they are in. If they win their next 3 and lose in the semifinal, then I think Nebraska will fall just short unless there are virtually no surprises in the conference tourneys to shrink the bubble.

58kcfan89 · 03-04-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

But he does kinda have a point. KSU is playing very well these last 3 weeks or so. But you gotta admit that they weren't playing very good basketball for a long portion of the season. They didn't really meet expectations. Same goes for Baylor (to a lesser extent).

Not trying to nitpick, but I'd argue that Baylor's been a much bigger bust than KSU. Sure, K-State's not going to live up to the preseason expectations (barring a miracle NCAA run), but Baylor was ranked 14th in the preseason, has one of the best scorers in Big 12 history (Dunn), a top 3 NBA pick (P. Jones) and likely won't even make the tournament. They also didn't have anyone suspended or a mass exodus in the middle of the season like K-State did.

kstater · 03-04-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

I disagree. If they lose to Colorado, I think they would have to win the big 12 tournament.

Even if they beat CU they have to win the tournament.

Titty Meat · 03-04-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Even if they beat CU they have to win the tournament.

Not true.

**alnorth** · 03-04-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Even if they beat CU they have to win the tournament.

disagree again. They win four in a row and lose to a Kansas or a Texas in the championship game, they are in. Nebraska is just barely out right now in the last four or next four out in all projections. I know the bubble will shrink, but how does Nebraska not make it if they win four?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-04-2011, 01:20 PM

If Nebraska wins two in the tournament, beating Texas twice in the regular season, as well as wins against Texas A&M, Colorado*2, and MU, they deserve to get in.

Titty Meat · 03-04-2011, 01:24 PM

Some dumbass on ESPN said Nebraska is in if they beat Colorado and win the first conference tourney game. While this is unlikely to happen I'm amazed that people who give such dipshit opinions actually collect a check.

baitism · 03-04-2011, 01:24 PM

Not sure why everyone is bagging on KSU right now. No one cares about college basketball till January, and they are playing as well as anyone right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go the farthest out of any Big 12 team.

LiveSteam · 03-04-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism

Not sure why everyone is bagging on KSU right now. No one cares about college basketball till January, and they are playing as well as anyone right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go the farthest out of any Big 12 team.

no one cares about the kittens on this thread

kstater · 03-04-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

disagree again. They win four in a row and lose to a Kansas or a Texas in the championship game, they are in. Nebraska is just barely out right now in the last four or next four out in all projections. I know the bubble will shrink, but how does Nebraska not make it if they win four?

Because the committee has shown time and time again that they don't place a whole lot of emphasis on the conference tournaments. They do place emphasis on road wins and non conference schedule. Neither of which look good for Nebraska. 8-8 with Nebraska's nonconference isn't gonna get it done. Add in the bad losses to Davidson, TTU and ISU and Nebraska is gonna have to win the tournament.

**alnorth** · 03-04-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Nebraska wins two in the tournament, beating Texas twice in the regular season, as well as wins against Texas A&M, Colorado*2, and MU, they deserve to get in.

If they win only three (Colorado and 2 in the tourney) I think they are one of those heartbroken "just missed" teams, but if the conference tourneys are all chalk and the bubble doesn't shrink this year, that might allow them to squeek in.

You listed their strengths, but Nebraska's problem is that the RPI is pretty bad. They do not have an extremely bad loss (but at least 3 questionable losses), but their non-conference schedule was really easy, so their margin of error is pretty small, and they have to beat Colorado just to finish the regular season with 20 wins.

If they win 4, they finish with 23 wins, the RPI will probably improve to at least the mid or high 50's, they will probably have beaten Kansas or Texas again, and they will have finished the season with a nice streak after that loss at Iowa State. That would do it, but thats probably what they need.

Titty Meat · 03-04-2011, 01:33 PM

You've admitted to only watching college basketball since 2007 when K-State became good so your sampling size is small.

**alnorth** · 03-04-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Because the committee has shown time and time again that they don't place a whole lot of emphasis on the conference tournaments. They do place emphasis on road wins and non conference schedule. Neither of which look good for Nebraska. 8-8 with Nebraska's nonconference isn't gonna get it done. Add in the bad losses to Davidson, TTU and ISU and Nebraska is gonna have to win the tournament.

I know that the conference tournaments are not the end-all be-all, but you are ignoring what 4 wins would do to their body of work. They likely would have beaten a KU or Texas, and a K-State or TA&M on the way to padding the RPI further with a loss to a Texas or Kansas.

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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $1757558	Some dumbass on ESPN said Nebraska is in if they beat Colorado and win the first conference tourney game. While this is unlikely to happen I'm amazed that people who give such dipshit opinions actually collect a check.
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baitism Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $5019551	Not sure why everyone is bagging on KSU right now. No one cares about college basketball till January, and they are playing as well as anyone right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they go the farthest out of any Big 12 team.
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $1757558	You've admitted to only watching college basketball since 2007 when K-State became good so your sampling size is small.
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