Chiefs Man what's with the Browns and whining? - Page 4

**srvy** · 09-12-2021, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock

It’s just not what I see. He gets knocked backward by our player while trying to walk away, and his toe gets caught causing him to stumble. It was an unfortunate event and tempers flared.

Tardif tried to push him off from his trash-talking as he was stepping on Clyde. This was reviewed by the NFL and it was obvious to them therefore the disqualification.

DanT · 09-12-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock

https://streamable.com/k63miy

I don’t buy it. His toe gets caught on our players knee right when he runs into another of our players. You can see him hopping to try to avoid putting his weight down.

Yeah, when I first looked at these videos, I thought that Harrison should be blamed for stepping on CEH, because Harrison seemed to have raised his leg just high enough to pretend that he didn't see realize CEH's knee was in the way. In particular, if I'm trying to avoid hitting something, I will look at that object while I'm stepping over it. Robinson wasn't doing that, so it seemed like he was trying to get a cheap shot in. However, after looking at the videos a few more times, I now see that what happened was that CEH had rotated his body just after Harrison committed to stepping over him, and so CEH's rotation caused his knee to block Harrison's foot, which happened at the same time that Harrison was impeded by another Chief that was trying to get in position to help CEH up.

At the very least, I now doubt that Harrison was deliberately stepping on CEH, where before I was pretty inclined to think he was.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 09-13-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

You absolutely know when you're stepping on a person. Just as you know when you step on a dog or cat or person in a crowd. The first reaction is to take the weight off and get off. That turd Harrison Jr knew exactly what he was doing.

^this^ He knew what he was doing...

**srvy** · 09-12-2021, 08:14 PM

Coaches have always pushed players out of their sideline so as not to have a brawl. You just haven't been paying attention to not notice.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-12-2021, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

Coaches have always pushed players out of their sideline so as not to have a brawl. You just haven't been paying attention to not notice.

If you used the word "separate" no one would have thought anything of it. At worst it was aggressively separating a player from the conflict.

**srvy** · 09-12-2021, 08:20 PM

Hell, even Turdiff tried to push Harrison of his teammate. But as usual, he couldn't move him just like he couldn't move anyone off the line when he started.

kcpasco · 09-12-2021, 08:29 PM

Don’t put your hands on a coach. It’s not that hard.

staylor26 · 09-12-2021, 08:34 PM

It doesn’t even matter what Harrison’s intent was. Lewis saw him stepping on his player, and he simply tried to get Harrison off to protect him. He wasn’t trying to start something. He wasn’t being overly aggressive.

Anybody saying that deserves anything more than a penalty doesn’t have a ****ing clue what they’re talking about.

eDave · 09-12-2021, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It doesn’t even matter what Harrison’s intent was. Lewis saw him stepping on his player, and he simply tried to get Harrison off to protect him. He wasn’t trying to start something. He wasn’t being overly aggressive.

Anybody saying that deserves anything more than a penalty doesn’t have a ****ing clue what they’re talking about.

Exactly. And his intent wasn't nefarious, IMO. Just unfortunate.

I've seen plenty of pushes after the play or whatever on the field between players that rarely elicit such a response back.

SupDock · 09-12-2021, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave

Exactly. And his intent wasn't nefarious, IMO. Just unfortunate.

I've seen plenty of pushes after the play or whatever on the field between players that rarely elicit such a response back.

I just think the whole thing was unfortunate. He had just got bumped backwards by our player, then pushed the other way by our coach, and he did something really ****ing stupid.

He definitely deserved the ejection, I just don’t think the incident was as bad as it is being portrayed here.

ChiefsFanatic · 09-13-2021, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It doesn’t even matter what Harrison’s intent was. Lewis saw him stepping on his player, and he simply tried to get Harrison off to protect him. He wasn’t trying to start something. He wasn’t being overly aggressive.

Anybody saying that deserves anything more than a penalty doesn’t have a ****ing clue what they’re talking about.

I would have been alright with off-setting penalties, but if both had been removed from the game, I probably would have been alright with that too.

And if the officials would have stepped in and just had everyone calm down, and no flag was thrown, I would have been alright with that too.

It is opening weekend, early in the game, and the officials should have been aware that KC eliminated Cleveland in the playoffs last year, and should have been expecting emotions to be running high.

I am sure Cleveland fans believe that losing their starting safety ended up costing them the game, and maybe it did. But, maybe it didn't. We were missing our starting safety, starting defensive end, and had 3 of our starting offensive linemen playing in their first NFL game.

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VAChief · 09-13-2021, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I would have been alright with off-setting penalties, but if both had been removed from the game, I probably would have been alright with that too.

And if the officials would have stepped in and just had everyone calm down, and no flag was thrown, I would have been alright with that too.

It is opening weekend, early in the game, and the officials should have been aware that KC eliminated Cleveland in the playoffs last year, and should have been expecting emotions to be running high.

I am sure Cleveland fans believe that losing their starting safety ended up costing them the game, and maybe it did. But, maybe it didn't. We were missing our starting safety, starting defensive end, and had 3 of our starting offensive linemen playing in their first NFL game.

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You missed our starting LB too. We had 3 frontline defensive starters missing.

**srvy** · 09-12-2021, 08:35 PM

Hell thanks for the Vid it even shows he stepped forward onto Clyde when he could have moved away back to the field.

KCTitus · 09-12-2021, 08:42 PM

IDGAF about breaking down the video like the Zapruder film, what I found most annoying was the referee that threw the flag that was initially called on KC only, was looking directly at Harrison as he shoved the Chiefs coach in the face and didnt call it both ways. Seriously? WTF?

At the very least it should have been called on both, initially and it wasnt called that way. I have a problem with that and it took the NY office to intervene.

staylor26 · 09-12-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

IDGAF about breaking down the video like the Zapruder film, what I found most annoying was the referee that threw the flag that was initially called on KC only, was looking directly at Harrison as he shoved the Chiefs coach in the face and didnt call it both ways. Seriously? WTF?

At the very least it should have been called on both, initially and it wasnt called that way. I have a problem with that and it took the NY office to intervene.

Yup. He was looking directly at Harrison when he did it. Absolute bullshit.

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srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1131250	Coaches have always pushed players out of their sideline so as not to have a brawl. You just haven't been paying attention to not notice. __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1131250	Hell, even Turdiff tried to push Harrison of his teammate. But as usual, he couldn't move him just like he couldn't move anyone off the line when he started. __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1249040	It doesn’t even matter what Harrison’s intent was. Lewis saw him stepping on his player, and he simply tried to get Harrison off to protect him. He wasn’t trying to start something. He wasn’t being overly aggressive. Anybody saying that deserves anything more than a penalty doesn’t have a ****ing clue what they’re talking about.
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srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1131250	Hell thanks for the Vid it even shows he stepped forward onto Clyde when he could have moved away back to the field. __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9892732	IDGAF about breaking down the video like the Zapruder film, what I found most annoying was the referee that threw the flag that was initially called on KC only, was looking directly at Harrison as he shoved the Chiefs coach in the face and didnt call it both ways. Seriously? WTF? At the very least it should have been called on both, initially and it wasnt called that way. I have a problem with that and it took the NY office to intervene. __________________ Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
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