Josh Allen “debating” whether to get COVID-19 vaccine

[RealSNR]

Forgive me for stereotyping a guy who used to throw a lot of picks and had a very low completion percentage, but since he's only not been that kind of QB for a single season, I still have this perception of him that he's a sub-80 IQ dingus and a butt****ing moron.

[kysirsoze]

Exhausting vaccine debate aside, Josh Allen sounds just really stupid. Like even by normal NFL player interview standards.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Exhausting vaccine debate aside, Josh Allen sounds just really stupid. Like even by normal NFL player interview standards.

I've never met an intelligent Josh in my life.

Yes, I know there are people named Josh who are actually pretty smart. I've just never met one.

[Rainbarrel]

I thought it was a failure in leadership. The weak as well as the strong listen.

[Hoover]

On a personal level, I support Allen's position.

I'd feel differently if I was the Bills. How bad would it suck if Allen gets the Covid during the season, or worse, during the playoffs. I agree that as a healthy young athlete he's not any serious risk, but just look at what happened to the Nationals. If I was the owner I'd pressure my entire staff to be vaccinated because it makes business sense.

[O.city]

Von Miller and Myles Garrett got hit pretty hard with covid and we’re down for a while

It’s not “die or don’t die”

But until it’s FDA approved and not EUA or whatever, no mandates.

[Shaid]

Nothing wrong with anything he said, perfectly reasonable.

[htismaqe]

What a ****ing shit show.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

The NFL will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, it stands to reason, even with incentives offered to teams and players who are vaccinated, some players aren’t going to get a shot.

Bills quarterback Josh Allen could be one of those. In an appearance on The Ringer’s “10 Questions With Kyle Brandt” podcast, Allen said he has not had a vaccine and might not get one.

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it. Again, I’d lean the other way, too, if that’s what it said. I haven’t been paying attention to it as much as maybe I should have. I’ve just been doing my thing and masking up when I’m going out and just staying close and hanging around family.”

It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine was shown to have a 72 percent efficacy rate in the United States in preventing symptomatic illness and an 85 percent efficacy rate in preventing the most severe disease 28 days after vaccination.

Allen, 24, made clear he’s against any kind of mandate.

“I think everybody should have that choice to do it or not to do it,” Allen said. “You get in this tricky situation now where if you do mandate that that’s kind of going against what our constitution says and the freedom to kind of express yourself one way or the other. I think we’re in a time where that’s getting a lot harder to do. Everybody should have that choice.”

However, the league expects to amend certain protocols for those who are vaccinated and for teams as a whole if certain vaccination levels are met, which will encourage (pressure?) players to get a COVID-19 shot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...id-19-vaccine/

Dudes a ****ing idiot. Yeah, if he were to infected he'd have an extremely high chance of living, but there are two reasons why him not getting is ****ing reeruned.

1. However miniscule his chance of dying from this is, there is still a chance. If taking a shot or 2 eliminates that risk, then why not eliminate it? Shouldn't we all be taking measures to protect our selves from things that could kill us, especially when the measure is so incredibly easy to take?

2. Protect other people

This idiot says “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it."

So what is he seeing that keeps him from getting a shot? Other than being like most of the ****ing idiots here at CP?

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Dudes a ****ing idiot. Yeah, if he were to infected he'd have an extremely high chance of living, but there are two reasons why him not getting is ****ing reeruned.



1. However miniscule his chance of dying from this is, there is still a chance. If taking a shot or 2 eliminates that risk, then why not eliminate it? Shouldn't we all be taking measures to protect our selves from things that could kill us, especially when the measure is so incredibly easy to take?



2. Protect other people



This idiot says “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it."



So what is he seeing that keeps him from getting a shot? Other than being like most of the ****ing idiots here at CP?

The vaccine was rushed out in a year and it's still an experiment I don't blame healthy least at risk people to wait it out a bit. I don't see a problem with this especially if people who are more at risk are being vaccinated first.




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[Monticore]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

The vaccine was rushed out in a year and it's still an experiment I don't blame healthy least at risk people to wait it out a bit. I don't see a problem with this especially if people who are more at risk are being vaccinated first.




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Why do you guys keep calling this vaccine rushed , that implies they cut corners , they already had existing tech and have been working on coronavirus vaccines since 2003 , if you throw 10x more money and people at a problem you would expect getting results sooner doesn't mean it was rushed.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Why do you guys keep calling this vaccine rushed , that implies they cut corners , they already had existing tech and have been working on coronavirus vaccines since 2003 , if you throw 10x more money and people at a problem you would expect getting results sooner doesn't mean it was rushed.

Why doesn't the vaccine have full FDA approval yet?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why doesn't the vaccine have full FDA approval yet?

The same people who regulate cigarette are the gold standard for safety?

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Why do you guys keep calling this vaccine rushed , that implies they cut corners , they already had existing tech and have been working on coronavirus vaccines since 2003 , if you throw 10x more money and people at a problem you would expect getting results sooner doesn't mean it was rushed.

Fair, but can you not see that getting a vaccine out like this is unprecedented? I can see where people might be a bit spooked and it is still categorized as experimental.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Fair, but can you not see that getting a vaccine out like this is unprecedented? I can see where people might be a bit spooked and it is still categorized as experimental.

There was a safe effective vaccine for h1n1 with it a year , there was an issue with and earlier vaccine but that one wasn’t the one approved and used by most , I got it within a year as well as my kids and we are still doing fine .