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Old 03-14-2019, 10:22 AM   #1
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:32 AM   #2
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:33 AM   #3
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He's listed as 260 pounds. To me, that's a little light for a DE in a 4 - 3.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:00 AM   #4
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This would speak to the scheme change coming with Spags.

If he has fully recovered from the ACL and hasn't broken something else in the meantime, he is a guy who could be very effective in a hybrid front (like the Amoeba Swim With Plunger System, for example). He was doing those sorts of things when he slated the double-digit sacks.

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Old 03-14-2019, 11:01 AM   #5
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Can you imagine how few players we'd be looking at if we eliminated anyone with an ACL in their past?
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:13 AM   #6
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Didnt Wilkes run a 43 in Arizona when Golden recorded 2.5 sacks?
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:15 AM   #7
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:24 AM   #8
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So he got an ACL fixed and only got 2.5 sacks in 2/3rds of a season coming back. That tells me that rehab and rust has been rubbed off and he's ready to go back to work. Also tells me he's about half as likely to tear an ACL again since 1 has already been fixed when compared to someone who hasn't torn any. Had DF production in 2016 so some ability must be there.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:33 AM   #9
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Well the Chiefs need someone...Can't go into the season relying on Speaks/KPass to get to the QB for this defense.

Chiefs will need to make a couple more splashes in the secondary, whether thats in FA or hitting a HR in the draft because they're not getting to the QB this yr and they'll have to weather that storm...it's going to be a D rebuild of at least 2 yrs.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:39 AM   #10
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I don't think people here at CP are giving enough credit for stealing NE's DL coach. He has been making something out of nothing for years for BB and I think if anyone can create a DL that's serviceable to good its him.
Spags is known for being good with the secondary so I guess I'm a slightly optimistic cynical realist this year.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:55 AM   #11
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He only started 3 games and had 12.5 sacks that year
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:59 AM   #12
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He only started 3 games and had 12.5 sacks that year
Right.

Year 1 - part time starter, 4 sacks
Year 2 - part time starter, 12.5 sacks
Year 3 - hurt
Year 4 - recovering from being hurt, still started 11 games and notched 2.5 sacks

As opposed to Ford:

Year 1 - full time backup 1.5 sacks
Year 2 - part time starter, 4 sacks
Year 3 - 10 sacks
Year 4 - hurt

He's almost a carbon copy of Dee Ford, minus Ford's rookie year and Ford's 2018 season. He's probably ready to break out this year and could be had for a fraction of what Ford got paid. It's exactly the type of move the Chiefs SHOULD make.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:01 PM   #13
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:19 PM   #14
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Giving massive contracts to older players with an injury history: dumb and shortsighted

Signing players who were recently injured at lower rates, hoping that they can provide more value than their cap number/salary: extremely smart

Veach is doing the latter.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:26 PM   #15
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Giving massive contracts to older players with an injury history: dumb and shortsighted

Signing players who were recently injured at lower rates, hoping that they can provide more value than their cap number/salary: extremely smart

Veach is doing the latter.
Bingo. And it's possible this is just how veach wants to rebuild quickly. We may not use this same approach three years from now when our defense has hopefully hit its stride.
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