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07-20-2021, 02:04 PM | #46 | |
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Jarran Reed isn’t going to make the impact we hope if we have Jack shit at DE.
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07-20-2021, 02:12 PM | #47 | |
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Some of these guys are going to have to way over-achieve for us to not be trash at pass rush. Not having any pass rush from your DE's is not going to cut it all the way through the playoffs and into the Super Bowl. At some point, you're going to need to get pressure with your DE's. |
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07-20-2021, 02:12 PM | #48 | |
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I think they potentially add some other help, or one of these young dudes take off though, but it's not ideal at this point. |
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07-20-2021, 02:17 PM | #49 |
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DE is a spot that if you want a real ass kicker day 1, you're either spending a shit load in free agency or drafting him super high in the first round.
The Chiefs just didn't have the resources this offseason, plus they've expanded those into Frank Clark. |
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07-20-2021, 02:32 PM | #50 |
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Jarran Reed wasn't here last year.
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07-20-2021, 02:35 PM | #51 |
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I think the positive way to spin this is it's not really any worse than it was last year, and actually can only get better.
All we really lost was Kpassagnon who was pure garbage. We get Charlton back healthy, Danna has another year of experience and a full off-season in the weight room, and we have Okafor back. They are obviously assuming Clark will play or they would be making a bigger push to upgrade the position. I mean if it comes down to it we are loaded at DT and Jones can spend most of his time outside, which he seems excited about. You add Reed to the mix along with the potential development of guys like Danna, Wharton & possibly Ward and we are better overall than we were last year on the entirety of the d-line, and we did make it to our second straight Super Bowl. I mean, we'll be fine. I'd prefer to be a little more comfortable, but there's only so much that can be done in one offseason with a salary cap. |
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07-20-2021, 02:40 PM | #52 |
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And no we’re don’t know if Frank Clark will be here this year
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07-20-2021, 02:42 PM | #53 |
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I wonder if Wharton will play some DE
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07-20-2021, 02:43 PM | #54 |
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Also, surprised nobody has mentioned this yet but Olivier Vernon is still out there. Started 13 games and had 9 sacks for the Browns.
There's still upgrades to be had if they think we need them. |
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07-20-2021, 02:46 PM | #55 |
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07-20-2021, 02:48 PM | #56 |
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I'm not sure if somebody has mentioned this yet, so sorry if Q, but the Kansas city Chiefs (my most favorist team) is pissed as hell about losing the SB and is going to rape faces this year.
Thanks for listening.
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DE: 14.5 sacks DT: 6 sacks DT: 2 sacks DE: 8.5 sacks For the record, that was the 2009 Minnesota Vikings with Jared Allen and Ray Edwards at DE and the Williams wall on the interior. The Chiefs are clearly banking on either Charlton, Danna, or some other guy to take a step up in production. Let's say Danna does. He's not gonna be an All Pro or anything, but let's say he secures a starting job and does better than Kpassagnon did. Is it so out of the question to think the Chiefs can't get the following sack numbers out of: DE: 6 sacks DT: 14.5 sacks DT: 8.5 sacks DE: 2 sacks No, I don't think Chris Jones is going to get 14.5 sacks, but I think he could get double digit for sure. Nor do I think our second DE is going to only get 2 sacks, and maybe you bump that up 1 or 2. And besides that (which I know people are going to scream at me about) sacks aren't everything. I know our defense is constructed differently. I know relying on our interior guys to rush the passer means we'll probably be deficient at stopping the run, and I'm not saying our DL is just as talented as the 2009 Minnesota Vikings. What I'm saying is the Chiefs are clearly rolling the dice on purpose with the players we have at DE. They'll continually evaluate the position and try to acquire help when they need it and if it's practical or feasible. And we shouldn't underestimate "good enough" play from our DEs, which they have the potential to achieve if their plan on the interior goes well. |
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07-20-2021, 02:49 PM | #58 |
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Mmmhrmmm....I can see him playing some DE. They gotta find a way to keep him on the field. Wharton/Clark/Reed/Jones are our 4 best lineman, so they gotta find a way to make that work.
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07-20-2021, 02:50 PM | #59 |
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Addition by subtraction, as far as I'm concerned.
I don't really view going from Clark to Danna as a downgrade. Clark was that bad. |
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No he wasn't. At least we can count on Clark to play his assignment and not get washed out on running plays. We can't count on Danna to do that.
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