Brett Veach

[scho63]

Veach is riding on his Mahomes pick success.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by scho63

Veach is riding on his Mahomes pick success.

What Mahomes pick success? John Dorsey is the one who made the trade up and then selected Mahomes.

This narrative that Veach is 100% responsible for Mahomes is ****ing ridiculous and is a blatant PR attempt by the Chiefs to make him look better than he actually is.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

What Mahomes pick success? John Dorsey is the one who made the trade up and then selected Mahomes.

This narrative that Veach is 100% responsible for Mahomes is ****ing ridiculous and is a blatant PR attempt by the Chiefs to make him look better than he actually is.

Veach discovered Mahomes. Everyone knows this. Dorsey was here when we picked him but it was all Veach. This is why he deserves some time.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Veach discovered Mahomes. Everyone knows this. Dorsey was here when we picked him but it was all Veach. This is why he deserves some time.

You aren’t seriously buying into that company line are you?

Maybe Veach scouted Mahomes but that’s what scouts are supposed to do.

DORSEY is the one who had to ultimately take Veach’s advice, and then make the big trade up to the exact spot he needed to get to in order to draft Mahomes.

We don’t give Dorsey nearly enough credit here. And as for Veach “discovering” Mahomes? It’s not like Mahomes was some grunge band playing in a dive bar that Veach happened to stumble upon. He was a well known commodity that every scout and GM in the league had their eyes on. So I’m not buying this “discovery” shit for one second.

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

You aren’t seriously buying into that company line are you?

Maybe Veach scouted Mahomes but that’s what scouts are supposed to do.

DORSEY is the one who had to ultimately take Veach’s advice, and then make the big trade up to the exact spot he needed to get to in order to draft Mahomes.

We don’t give Dorsey nearly enough credit here. And as for Veach “discovering” Mahomes? It’s not like Mahomes was some grunge band playing in a dive bar that Veach happened to stumble upon. He was a well known commodity that every scout and GM in the league had their eyes on. So I’m not buying this “discovery” shit for one second.

Yes Dorsey traded up to #10 not higher not lower while giving up just enough. Dorsey had his ups and downs but with a powerful HC like Reid directly reporting to the owner I don't know how "great" a GM can be.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

What Mahomes pick success? John Dorsey is the one who made the trade up and then selected Mahomes.

This narrative that Veach is 100% responsible for Mahomes is ****ing ridiculous and is a blatant PR attempt by the Chiefs to make him look better than he actually is.

Veach drove the pick from early on, Dorsey just executed it.

Know your Chiefs history.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by scho63

Veach drove the pick from early on, Dorsey just executed it.

Know your Chiefs history.

And Dorsey should get 100% of the credit/blame. I'm sure all of his scouts like particular players. The buck stops at the GM who has to make the moves/call.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

And Dorsey should get 100% of the credit/blame. I'm sure all of his scouts like particular players. The buck stops at the GM who has to make the moves/call.

Exactly this.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by scho63

Veach drove the pick from early on, Dorsey just executed it.

Know your Chiefs history.

Think about who’s telling you this fairy tale. You think the Chiefs were going to be like “Patrick Mahomes is a stone cold stud, too bad we kicked the guy who drafted him to the curb and promoted this underqualified yes man to the role?”

No way. This whole “Veach discovered Mahomes” story is blatant PR by the Clarks, trying to discredit Dorsey and make Veach look like a wunderkind when it’s becoming clear he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing.

I’m not buying it. You credit the GM who made the pick and that was Dorsey. End of story.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Think about who’s telling you this fairy tale. You think the Chiefs were going to be like “Patrick Mahomes is a stone cold stud, too bad we kicked the guy who drafted him to the curb and promoted this underqualified yes man to the role?”

No way. This whole “Veach discovered Mahomes” story is blatant PR by the Clarks, trying to discredit Dorsey and make Veach look like a wunderkind when it’s becoming clear he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing.

I’m not buying it. You credit the GM who made the pick and that was Dorsey. End of story.

Again, that didn’t just come from the Chiefs. That’s from Mahomes’ team and people at TT as well. This started well before his Junior year.

Stop trying to change the facts to fit your narrative.

[gold_and_red]

Three years after the Steelers playoff loss and still the run D looks like shit. They have acknowledged this weakness yet haven't fixed it.
I shudder to think how Veach will manage the roster after paying Mahomes.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by gold_and_red

Three years after the Steelers playoff loss and still the run D looks like shit. They have acknowledged this weakness yet haven't fixed it.
I shudder to think how Veach will manage the roster after paying Mahomes.

This roster has been decaying under Veach.

Through 5 games the Chiefs:

Can't stop the run
Can't rush the passer
Can't cover
Can't run the ball
Can't pass protect.

Literally the only thing they've done well thus far is throw the ball and Mahomes has been banged up and a bit off and Watkins and Hill are down.

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

This roster has been decaying under Veach.

Through 5 games the Chiefs:

Can't stop the run
Can't rush the passer
Can't cover
Can't run the ball
Can't pass protect.

Literally the only thing they've done well thus far is throw the ball and Mahomes has been banged up and a bit off and Watkins and Hill are down.

No discipline either in all three phases. I simply cannot accept that Reid is a great coach when his teams are constantly and heavily penalized.

The only way we have been winning is building up leads through the brilliance of our QB and hoping that the other team panics trying to catch up.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by gold_and_red

I simply cannot accept that Reid is a great coach when his teams are constantly and heavily penalized.

Or has clock management issues.

Or has soft teams that get out-muscled.

Or lacks situational awareness.

[gold_and_red]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Or has clock management issues.

Or has soft teams that get out-muscled.

Or lacks situational awareness.

Two playoff wins in six years, 20 years one SB appearance. If he doesn't win at least two playoff games this year CHunt should turn it over to another HC.
Mahomes, Hill, Kelce and our weapons are great enough to run a different philosophy. We need a much better OL and a more balanced team none of which Reid and Veach will provide.