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Old 04-21-2005, 04:50 PM  
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oakland going after Surtain?
a rumor from cali radio...

faiders trying to replace buchanon with Surtain

they have an extra 3rd rounder now
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:51 PM   #46
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This would be good news, then Washington is out of the CB market with #9, and Carlos falls to 15.
No, it would be HORRIBLE news, because it would likely mean Surtain going to Oakland.

We need Surtain INFINITELY more than we need a rookie, no matter who he is.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:55 PM   #47
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No, it would be HORRIBLE news, because it would likely mean Surtain going to Oakland.

We need Surtain INFINITELY more than we need a rookie, no matter who he is.
Amen, wish I felt we were going to get Surtain. But to tell you my state of mind on the matter I was actually disappointed today when I read Dyson had signed with the Seahawks, I saw him as our true last resort. (Course maybe I am wrong about Ty Law, one can only hope)
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:09 PM   #48
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:27 PM   #49
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Surtain is a corner that was on the top pass D in the NFL.
Thanks for making my point for me... A great pass D is a combination of pass rush and secondary... Not to take anything away from Surtain, but a lot of his success has come from that great pass rush.


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and if you have so many good run support guys, why can't you stop anyone.
Teams averaged 3.7 yards a carry against our rush defense. The problem with our D was the inability to make a stop on third downs.
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:43 PM   #50
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This board, along with all KC Chiefs fans would errupt. It's one thing for Carl to **** this trade up, but it's another thing to let him go to the Raiders.

Damn you Carl nut up and get Surtain.

Not all Chiefs fans. I want Law and our draft picks.
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Old 04-21-2005, 08:52 PM   #51
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Not all Chiefs fans. I want Law and our draft picks.
Seems you're going to get your wish. Course after the draft there might be more interest in Law coming from other teams that still need a CB. He will go to the highest bidder and we KNOW it won't be us. I'd much rather trade our # 2 (I'm basing this on the "gems" we've selected in that round over the years) and get a proven CB that will help immediately and take my chances that we won't BLOW our first rounder -than to take a chance on Ty Law being healthy. Law has always been a "fall back" cause he wasn't our # 1 CB target or even #2 for that matter. There's a reason for that. Just my take.
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The only thing that could be worse than us not getting the Surtain deal done is Oakland getting the Surtain deal done.


What if the Broncos got the Surtain deal done? We've got three third rounders...
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:08 PM   #53
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What if the Broncos got the Surtain deal done? We've got three third rounders...
being a Raider or Bronco would hurt Surtain's possible INT totals
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:16 PM   #54
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The more I think about this, the dumber it gets.

Why would Washington TRADE with Oakland and take on Woodson's salary demands when they could give up LESS and get a REAL CB from Miami?

Answer? They wouldn't.
Why anyone would acquire Woodson when Surtain is available boggles me. Even if you discount Woodson's baggage and and the fact that he hasn't played a full season since 2001.
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:22 PM   #55
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I say let Carl go tough SOB, make all of his picks for this year's draft, then trade next year's 3rd for Surtain.
You think Surtain could be had for next year's 3rd? Generally, next year's picks are equal in value to a round later this year. That means you would get Surtain for the value of a 4th this year?
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Surtain is a zone CB.
O won't speak on Woodson, because I have not seen him enough, but DAM! Surtain is a zone corner? I strongly disagree. I am by no means a foorball expert, but I have seen enough Dolphin games to know that Pat is definitely a man-to-man guy.
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Why are you guys still arguing with SoCalreerun?
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