Ashley Ambrose, our new CB? - Page 4

Bootlegged · 06-28-2005, 04:50 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/12000685.htm

chiefs seek corner

Law is still in picture

Ambrose, however, remains favorite

As week two of the Chiefs’ search for a cornerback began Monday, Ashley Ambrose emerged as the realistic favorite, and Ty Law kept his spot somewhere high on the speed dial.

Coach Dick Vermeil said Monday night that the Chiefs are “very interested” in Ambrose, a 13-year veteran who worked out in Kansas City late last week. The holdup, at least in part, is Law, the Pro Bowl corner who visited the Chiefs in March and is still on the market.

The Chiefs want Law if he will sign for a dramatically reduced price. But Law, who just began making cuts on his surgically repaired foot, reportedly wants big money.

“The thought is to play the whole scenario out,” Vermeil said, “and the scenario does include a final evaluation of Ty Law in terms of what is actually going to happen from a financial standpoint.

“First off, can he pass the physical? And then we have to find out how much money he’s going to be offered on the open market. If he’s going to be offered big money, then we’re automatically out of it.”

While Law was rehabbing his foot this spring, the Chiefs signed cornerback Patrick Surtain, safety Sammy Knight, linebacker Kendrell Bell and defensive end Carlos Hall. The defense appeared to be complete, but then Julian Battle tore his Achilles’ heel during minicamp June 18.

Battle was running with the first team because starter Eric Warfield may miss at least part of the season due to an NFL suspension.

So the Chiefs brought in four free-agent cornerbacks last week who are nearing the twilight of their careers, and Ambrose, 34, was the most impressive. He started six games last year for the Saints and was a Pro Bowler with the Bengals in 1996. After watching film on Ambrose, a 5-foot-11, 195-pound Louisiana native, Vermeil said it’s obvious he can still play.

Ambrose’s agent, Kennard McGuire, said three teams have shown “a tremendous amount of interest,” but Ambrose is patient and wants to find the right fit.

“He’s been to the Pro Bowl, he’s done extremely well from a contractual standpoint,” McGuire said. “I believe more pressing issue with him is being afforded that opportunity to play with a contender. He feels like this is one of situations he’s been waiting on.”

Ambrose will need patience. Vermeil, who’s vacationing in Pennsylvania, said it’s unclear how long the Chiefs will wait to sign a corner. Training camp starts July 28 in River Falls, Wis.

He said the Chiefs have no immediate plans to bring Law in for a physical.

“I think realistically that we, in the future, will make a move on Ashley,” Vermeil said. “Right now we’ve just decided to be patient and see what happens.”

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RedThat · 06-28-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

fwi..Roaf was in that 1996 pro bowl...how amazing is he?

Hey hey....This is Big Willie we're talking here. Mr. Consistency throughtout his whole career. 8, 9, 10 probowls? He's like the Strahan of Offensive lineman..It's Willie man.

TRR · 06-28-2005, 08:53 AM

I would think Beasley is the obvious choice. However, we don't know (1) if Beasley thinks he is worth more than vets minimum, and (2) what kind of shape he is in at this point in the offseason. If Ambrose stayed in great shape, and Beasley let himself go a bit, then AA might have looked like the better CB.

Ambrose can still play. Even if he is signed, I still think they go with McCleon as the starter if Edub is suspended.

shaneo69 · 06-28-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

DeWayne Washington was able to play in 16 games last year for a good Jax defense.

Somebody told me that we shouldn't question Carl this offseason.

**ptlyon** · 06-28-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

He's like the Strahan of Offensive lineman..It's Willie man.

c'mon - I don't think Willie is that overrated.

ChiefsOne · 06-28-2005, 09:15 AM

I would rather have Ambrose than McCleon or Battle at this point. Battle always looked lost or to anxious and screwed up too much.

shaneo69 · 06-28-2005, 09:22 AM

I know this Warfield suspension is coming as a surprise to the organization, but....

maybe it would've made sense to draft more than one CB, in case, God forbid, the one that we drafted doesn't pan out.

jspchief · 06-28-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

I know this Warfield suspension is coming as a surprise to the organization, but....

maybe it would've made sense to draft more than one CB, in case, God forbid, the one that we drafted doesn't pan out.

We used two draft picks on CBs.

RedThat · 06-28-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

I know this Warfield suspension is coming as a surprise to the organization, but....

maybe it would've made sense to draft more than one CB, in case, God forbid, the one that we drafted doesn't pan out.

Well, that is why we are signing one.

kc rush · 06-28-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

Makes me wonder if maybe the Chiefs have heard something regarding Warfield's suspension (or lack thereof).

Perhaps now they're looking for a nickel replacement (Ambrose) for less money, instead of a potential starter replacement (Washington) that could want more $.

Just a thought......

If you listen to 610 Warfield will be suspended, no question. They claim that because the NFL is taking so long to make an announcement that it will probably be a 6 - 8 game suspension. At that point I called them idiots and changed the station only to listen to NASCAR talk.

Oxford · 06-28-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

This is, of course, all assuming that Warfield is going to be suspended the first 4 games.

There's (supposedly) already rumors floating that the suspension will only be 2 games, which makes me much more comfortable with signing Ambrose.

Like many on this board have already stated, I think the Chiefs are better off the longer this plays out.

Look, Woods played 3rd down nickel back a couple of years ago. If this is our 4th corner and Woods still has speed, why not him? He would only be playing in nickel or dime situations, he's already signed and counts against the cap.

beer bacon · 06-28-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kc rush

If you listen to 610 Warfield will be suspended, no question. They claim that because the NFL is taking so long to make an announcement that it will probably be a 6 - 8 game suspension. At that point I called them idiots and changed the station only to listen to NASCAR talk.

610 AM is fine for getting factual updates, but just about everything their broadcasters say is bullshit.

shaneo69 · 06-28-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

We used two draft picks on CBs.

And with our other picks, we were able to get the heir apparent to Gary Stills (Khari Long), a guy who can backup Casey Clausen in NFLE next spring (James Kilian), a guy who played defense in college but will try to switch to either TE or OT (Will Svitek), and a WR who we'll be lucky to keep on the practice squad (Crap Thorpe).

But why draft any more CB's when you already have Julien Battle.

beer bacon · 06-28-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

And with our other picks, we were able to get the heir apparent to Gary Stills (Khari Long), a guy who can backup Casey Clausen in NFLE next spring (James Kilian), a guy who played defense in college but will try to switch to either TE or OT (Will Svitek), and a WR who we'll be lucky to keep on the practice squad (Crap Thorpe).

But why draft any more CB's when you already have Julien Battle.

The obvious answer is so we can complain about it here on Chiefsplanet.

BigChiefFan · 06-28-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

And with our other picks, we were able to get the heir apparent to Gary Stills (Khari Long), a guy who can backup Casey Clausen in NFLE next spring (James Kilian), a guy who played defense in college but will try to switch to either TE or OT (Will Svitek), and a WR who we'll be lucky to keep on the practice squad (Crap Thorpe).

But why draft any more CB's when you already have Julien Battle.

We gave up a draft pick for Surtain. We drafted Hodge and we already had Warfield, Battle, McCleon, and Sapp. I think they did a good job in the off-season. I don't see why you are being so hard on the FO, when they addressed the issues. Nobody could have predicted a serious injury to Battle.

**ptlyon** · 06-28-2005, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kc rush

...that it will probably be a 6 - 8 game suspension. .

No WAY that will happen.

06-28-2005, 04:50 AM
Bootlegged One4Mahomes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: f Casino cash: $9955545	Ashley Ambrose, our new CB? http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/12000685.htm chiefs seek corner Law is still in picture Ambrose, however, remains favorite As week two of the Chiefs’ search for a cornerback began Monday, Ashley Ambrose emerged as the realistic favorite, and Ty Law kept his spot somewhere high on the speed dial. Coach Dick Vermeil said Monday night that the Chiefs are “very interested” in Ambrose, a 13-year veteran who worked out in Kansas City late last week. The holdup, at least in part, is Law, the Pro Bowl corner who visited the Chiefs in March and is still on the market. The Chiefs want Law if he will sign for a dramatically reduced price. But Law, who just began making cuts on his surgically repaired foot, reportedly wants big money. “The thought is to play the whole scenario out,” Vermeil said, “and the scenario does include a final evaluation of Ty Law in terms of what is actually going to happen from a financial standpoint. “First off, can he pass the physical? And then we have to find out how much money he’s going to be offered on the open market. If he’s going to be offered big money, then we’re automatically out of it.” While Law was rehabbing his foot this spring, the Chiefs signed cornerback Patrick Surtain, safety Sammy Knight, linebacker Kendrell Bell and defensive end Carlos Hall. The defense appeared to be complete, but then Julian Battle tore his Achilles’ heel during minicamp June 18. Battle was running with the first team because starter Eric Warfield may miss at least part of the season due to an NFL suspension. So the Chiefs brought in four free-agent cornerbacks last week who are nearing the twilight of their careers, and Ambrose, 34, was the most impressive. He started six games last year for the Saints and was a Pro Bowler with the Bengals in 1996. After watching film on Ambrose, a 5-foot-11, 195-pound Louisiana native, Vermeil said it’s obvious he can still play. Ambrose’s agent, Kennard McGuire, said three teams have shown “a tremendous amount of interest,” but Ambrose is patient and wants to find the right fit. “He’s been to the Pro Bowl, he’s done extremely well from a contractual standpoint,” McGuire said. “I believe more pressing issue with him is being afforded that opportunity to play with a contender. He feels like this is one of situations he’s been waiting on.” Ambrose will need patience. Vermeil, who’s vacationing in Pennsylvania, said it’s unclear how long the Chiefs will wait to sign a corner. Training camp starts July 28 in River Falls, Wis. He said the Chiefs have no immediate plans to bring Law in for a physical. “I think realistically that we, in the future, will make a move on Ashley,” Vermeil said. “Right now we’ve just decided to be patient and see what happens.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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06-28-2005, 08:53 AM	#47
TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	I would think Beasley is the obvious choice. However, we don't know (1) if Beasley thinks he is worth more than vets minimum, and (2) what kind of shape he is in at this point in the offseason. If Ambrose stayed in great shape, and Beasley let himself go a bit, then AA might have looked like the better CB. Ambrose can still play. Even if he is signed, I still think they go with McCleon as the starter if Edub is suspended.
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06-28-2005, 09:15 AM	#50
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06-28-2005, 09:22 AM	#51
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	I know this Warfield suspension is coming as a surprise to the organization, but.... maybe it would've made sense to draft more than one CB, in case, God forbid, the one that we drafted doesn't pan out. __________________ "I like Chiefs president Carl Peterson. I respect his business savvy. I envy his management skills and his penchant never to be driven by the whims of popularity. I admire his willingness to take responsibility for decisions that don’t work out the way he would have wanted." - Rufus, from KCChiefs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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