Football 101...Training Camp for the Fan.

[Iowanian]

We have many Young posters, and fans who have never played football on the board. Some have vast football knowledge and could educate some of us that have things to learn, so we can more than nod our heads and pretend to understand the conversation, thereby getting more benefit in season conversation.

If you have a question, don't be afraid to ask it. Myself, someone who knows will explain it the best we can, or link it on the web. In this thread, there should be no such thing as a "stupid Football related question".

For those who really know.....pick a topic and explain it in a way that a Jr High kid could understand.

Offensive Line Schemes...the difference between zone blocking etc.
Cover 2 defense, zone defense, man defense.....1,2 and 3 gap DLine techniques.........whats an Hback....the difference between a SS and FS and their responsibilities.

Let the questions and Answers rip. this could be a great educational experience. Lets Go planet, Get the Rookies in Game-day Shape.

[Iowanian]

I didn't discuss Checkdown.

Typically, by my understanding of the terminology, the Checkdown is a quarterback's route progression on a given play. The play may be designed so as the QB is looking for the Xwr on a flag route, and if he is covered, will look for say the TE on a Seam Route, and then maybe the Slot WR on an 1o yard out.....and the last option a pass to the FB in the flat, hoping for at least positive yardage.

[Chiefnj]

Originally Posted by Gaz

As I understand it, CBs in the 46 Defense cover outside zones, and the FS covers the inside zone. The SS lines on the same side as the TE and has TE coverage responsibility.

The advantage here is that the LBs or SS can drop back into zone coverage at any time. The desire is to sew confusion among The Enemy with multiple options from a “standard” formation.

I have a question on this same topic: does anyone play a 46 with man coverage?

xoxo~
Gaz
Playing with the x’s & o’s.

I thought that the corners in a 46 almost always played man to man coverage.

The SS lines up on the line with the 4 down linemen and the SLB.
You then have each corner paired with a receiver, and the FS back towards the middle.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Gaz

As I understand it, CBs in the 46 Defense cover outside zones, and the FS covers the inside zone. The SS lines on the same side as the TE and has TE coverage responsibility.

The advantage here is that the LBs or SS can drop back into zone coverage at any time. The desire is to sew confusion among The Enemy with multiple options from a “standard” formation.

I have a question on this same topic: does anyone play a 46 with man coverage?

xoxo~
Gaz
Playing with the x’s & o’s.

Nice work there. Many teams had had trouble with Buddy Ryan's 46 (Or called Double Eagle Defense). It's also difficult to double-read when 3 rushers are working together. So any plays that have both backs (FB's and RB's) going to the same side usually encounter an unblocked backside LB. So scoop blocks (Think of like scooping an ice cream) are required to get full-flow plays started. It's also possible when defenders are playing into the gaps.

One several ways to beat the 46 on the ground is the naked-bootleg, it might be possible to pull the outside split end side defender upfield with the naked fake and get a cutback play outside the backside tackle and guard. Also the sprint-draw play works well when the FB can block to the side of the initial fake, and the RB can run all the way back to the other side on a backwards scoop block. The standard counter plays (i.e. counter sweeps, counter option, etc) Finally, a simple FB trap can do some damage as well.

One of the ways to pass-protect a dropback passer would to assign one tackle to a LB and tell him to help to the inside if the LB does not come. Double-reading must be employed if possible. The problem is to do it with two pass blockers aganist 3 defenders. So if the TE splits, so that it forces that one defender to go with him, then the double-read can be executed.

[Iowanian]

Here is a nice link, provided by another poster that should help explain some defensive questions/basics/concepts.

http://www.letstalkdefense.com/defensiveschemes.html
http://www.letstalkdefense.com/43defense.html

[Iowanian]

luv2write....this might be what you need.

[Saulbadguy]

Is the triple option officially dead?

[Iowanian]

The Raiders are likely to try it again this season, with such a mobile and indefensible offense.........though they would only be showing off, since they've already scored 89 points in the first half and Kerry Collins is so mobile.

[WisChief]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I know you're being a wiseguy too, but there might be someone who doesn't know....

The Two orange poles, connected by a 10 yard chain are the first down chains. The first one marks the point of beginning at 1st down, while the 2nd marks 10 yards and the point the offense must get to receive a first down. The post, which also has the Down # on it, is the Ball marker, and moves to mark the yard line of the balls location(after a sack, it could be several yards behind the 10 yards for ex.

Many of the down markers are now made in Kansas City in the garages of some local makers of "dialadown"...one of which is a relative of mine.

When the Offense of KC passes the first down marker, you're bound to see a Planet Member in a cape and a helmet Hair do an odd lipped shake as they say "1st down"

http://football.about.com/cs/footbal...l_101downs.htm

This reminded me of something I noticed at the game Sat night that I've never noticed before in person or on TV.

During the first half, on the Chiefs side of the field the first marker was always left where the initial line of scrimage was when the series started. If Dante returned it to the 27, then the first marker stayed at the 27 until AZ got the ball and then it would stay at that point until... you get the point. Then when the second half started this process was repeated on the visitor side of the field.

I think this helps make it clear why in some cases the chain gang brings the sticks/chains all the way across the field to measure.

[bogie]

This thread is much appreciated! Thanks!

[onescrewleftuntwisted]

i played defense tackle, nose guard, and once got to be line backer in pratice, my coach how ever did not like me very well so all of my football storys end at pratice, i quit my last year and havent played since. in 3 years of playing football i got hardly any field time. when i did get playing time i got penaltys for unnessary ruffness on the QB (witch is bull shit that was my job) got some holding calls too but i though he had the ball and i wasnt gonna let him go

[Iowanian]

welcome to the Board mr Siavii.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

welcome to the Board mr Siavii.

[Iowanian]

There has been some whining about no football threads.

Here is your chance.

There has been alot of speculation that the Chiefs Defense will be switching to the Cover 2 Defense.

Maybe we could discuss what that entails and why it requires some different personell.

[Mecca]

Let's discuss how about 80% of our personel is wrong for a cover 2........

[Iowanian]

Please elaborate for the class.

Safety speed is an issue for sure.