Whats up with our punter? - Page 4

joesomebody · 10-18-2005, 01:12 PM

According to Yahoo, http://http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz_lo...r=fp-buzz-more, it appears our very own Dustin Colquitt's jersey is in the top 10 for searches... Why?

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Hammock Parties · 10-18-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

The fact that our punter has the worst numbers in the league, the fact I mentioned them or the fact others are defending the worst numbers in the league?

Ray Guy.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-18-2005, 04:08 PM

Do you ever worry when he trots on the field like you did when Jason Baker was here?

NaptownChief · 10-18-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Ray Guy.

I don't recall Ray Guy ever posting numbers at the bottom of the NFL...Am I wrong about that?

NaptownChief · 10-18-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Do you ever worry when he trots on the field like you did when Jason Baker was here?

I've never worried about our punting. Cause no matter how good or bad it might be it usually got offset by the defense within two plays anyway.

**HemiEd** · 10-18-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Do you ever worry when he trots on the field like you did when Jason Baker was here?

Excellent point, just like we do not worry about fumbles with Priest like we used to with previous running backs, and um LJ.

Sully · 10-18-2005, 04:14 PM

An easy way to figure out the argument between perception of where Colquitt is kicking from and his numbers is to find the ratio of punts downed inside the 20/ total punts.
I fall on the side of the argument that he's doing a better job than the numbers indicate, but not hitting boomers because of field position.

NaptownChief · 10-18-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

An easy way to figure out the argument between perception of where Colquitt is kicking from and his numbers is to find the ratio of punts downed inside the 20/ total punts.
I fall on the side of the argument that he's doing a better job than the numbers indicate, but not hitting boomers because of field position.

Add in touch backs also....And when you do that you get 9 of 20 punts which is fairly well in line with most punters.

For example Chris Hansen of Jax has 22 of 37 punts which is a much higher percentage yet he is 8th in the league. Hentrick is 14 of 25 and ranks 13th. Feagles 12 of 22 and ranks 14th. Those at the very top of the ranks do have a smaller percentage and certainly is helping boost their numbers a bit but Colquits is pretty well around the norm.

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I don't recall Ray Guy ever posting numbers at the bottom of the NFL...Am I wrong about that?

Ray Guy's career gross average was 42.4 yards.

That would rank him in the bottom third of the league today.

tk13 · 10-18-2005, 04:43 PM

Here you go... this is all of Colquitt's punts. You guys figure it out.

Key: Line of scrimmage/punt/return

Both fair catches and downed punts I listed as "no return", I probably should've separated them just for kicks, but I didn't.

Week 1

KC 29 -- 47 yd punt to OPP 24 -- 8 yd return
KC 16 -- 50 yd punt to OPP 34 -- 8 yd return

Week 2

OPP 47 -- 29 yd punt to OPP 17 -- Fumbled
KC 34 -- 49 yd punt to OPP 17 -- 34 yd return
OPP 42 -- 42 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback

Week 3

OPP 36 -- 36 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback
KC 28 -- 52 yd punt to OPP 20 -- No return
KC 13 -- 40 yd punt to OPP 47 -- 1 yd return
KC 41 -- 39 yd punt to OPP 20 -- No return
OPP 39 -- 28 yd punt to OPP 11 -- Out of bounds
OPP 46 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 14 -- Muffed, no return

Week 4

KC 14 -- 54 yd punt to OPP 32 -- Muffed, no return
KC 38 -- 62 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback
KC 26 -- 36 yd punt to OPP 38 -- 2 yd return
OPP 42 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 10 -- No return

Week 6

KC 40 -- 35 yd punt to OPP 25 -- No return
OPP 47 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 17 -- No return
KC 34 -- 34 yd punt to OPP 32 -- No return
KC 43 -- 42 yd punt to OPP 15 -- Out of bounds
OPP 47 -- 25 yd punt to OPP 22 -- Out of bounds

20 total punts

8 in opponent's territory
11 total from KC 40 yard line in

NaptownChief · 10-18-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Ray Guy's career gross average was 42.4 yards.

That would rank him in the bottom third of the league today.

And Jim Brown's 4.7 40 would put him behind all NFL RB's today except Mo Clarret so what is your point? If it would have qualifed as a good performance 25 years ago then we should be content even if it is bad today?

If you have a point, you have lost me on it.

Sully · 10-18-2005, 04:44 PM

See, that looks beautiful to me, because the average starting field position is great. He booms 'em when needed, and otherwise places them where they need to be.

NaptownChief · 10-18-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Here you go... this is all of Colquitt's punts. You guys figure it out.

Week 1

KC 29 -- 47 yd punt to OPP 24 -- 8 yd return
KC 16 -- 50 yd punt to OPP 34 -- 8 yd return

Week 2

OPP 47 -- 29 yd punt to OPP 17 -- Fumbled
KC 34 -- 49 yd punt to OPP 17 -- 34 yd return
OPP 42 -- 42 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback

Week 3

OPP 36 -- 36 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback
KC 28 -- 52 yd punt to OPP 20 -- No return
KC 13 -- 40 yd punt to OPP 47 -- 1 yd return
KC 41 -- 39 yd punt to KC 20 -- No return
OPP 39 -- 28 yd punt to OPP 11 -- Out of bounds
OPP 46 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 14 -- Muffed, no return

Week 4

KC 14 -- 54 yd punt to OPP 32 -- Muffed, no return
KC 38 -- 62 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback
KC 26 -- 36 yd punt to OPP 38 -- 2 yd return
OPP 42 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 10 -- No return

Week 6

KC 40 -- 35 yd punt to OPP 25 -- No return
OPP 47 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 17 -- No return
KC 34 -- 34 yd punt to OPP 32 -- No return
KC 43 -- 42 yd punt to OPP 15 -- Out of bounds
OPP 47 -- 25 yd punt to OPP 22 -- Out of bounds

I'm not sure how it is remotely relevant unless you are comparing the exact same data to that of the other 31 punters in the league.

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

And Jim Brown's 4.7 40 would put him behind all NFL RB's today except Mo Clarret so what is your point? If it would have qualifed as a good performance 25 years ago then we should be content even if it is bad today?

If you have a point, you have lost me on it.

Jim Brown didn't run a 4.7 40.

Even if he did, horrible point. Do you know how fast Bullet Bob Hayes was?

My point is, the statistics you are looking at are grossly overrated.

NaptownChief · 10-18-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Jim Brown didn't run a 4.7 40.

By many peoples estimates he sure did.

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2005, 04:50 PM

The point is, Ray Guy was a hall of fame punter because of HANG TIME.

The same thing makes Colquitt good.

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10-18-2005, 04:14 PM	#51
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	An easy way to figure out the argument between perception of where Colquitt is kicking from and his numbers is to find the ratio of punts downed inside the 20/ total punts. I fall on the side of the argument that he's doing a better job than the numbers indicate, but not hitting boomers because of field position. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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10-18-2005, 04:43 PM	#54
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1672500	Here you go... this is all of Colquitt's punts. You guys figure it out. Key: Line of scrimmage/punt/return Both fair catches and downed punts I listed as "no return", I probably should've separated them just for kicks, but I didn't. Week 1 KC 29 -- 47 yd punt to OPP 24 -- 8 yd return KC 16 -- 50 yd punt to OPP 34 -- 8 yd return Week 2 OPP 47 -- 29 yd punt to OPP 17 -- Fumbled KC 34 -- 49 yd punt to OPP 17 -- 34 yd return OPP 42 -- 42 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback Week 3 OPP 36 -- 36 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback KC 28 -- 52 yd punt to OPP 20 -- No return KC 13 -- 40 yd punt to OPP 47 -- 1 yd return KC 41 -- 39 yd punt to OPP 20 -- No return OPP 39 -- 28 yd punt to OPP 11 -- Out of bounds OPP 46 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 14 -- Muffed, no return Week 4 KC 14 -- 54 yd punt to OPP 32 -- Muffed, no return KC 38 -- 62 yd punt to endzone -- Touchback KC 26 -- 36 yd punt to OPP 38 -- 2 yd return OPP 42 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 10 -- No return Week 6 KC 40 -- 35 yd punt to OPP 25 -- No return OPP 47 -- 32 yd punt to OPP 17 -- No return KC 34 -- 34 yd punt to OPP 32 -- No return KC 43 -- 42 yd punt to OPP 15 -- Out of bounds OPP 47 -- 25 yd punt to OPP 22 -- Out of bounds 20 total punts 8 in opponent's territory 11 total from KC 40 yard line in Last edited by tk13; 10-18-2005 at 04:55 PM..
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10-18-2005, 04:44 PM	#56
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	See, that looks beautiful to me, because the average starting field position is great. He booms 'em when needed, and otherwise places them where they need to be. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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