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Old 09-18-2006, 09:31 AM  
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Is Tamba Hali even on this team?
So far he's everything I thought he would be. A smaller, more mobile Eric Hicks. An effort guy with limted quickness and pass rush skills. Did his number even get called yesterday? The week before? Will it ever?
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:00 AM   #46
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Not all #1 picks are "game-changers". Heck, at this point, to give up 9 points to Denver at Invesco is almost a fantasy come true.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:02 AM   #47
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I think DH you should actually watch the games before commenting on them. #91 has been a vast improvment to our D line over hicks. Yes he is still a rookie and gonna make mistakes, but even seasoned veterans make mistakes. Rather than worrying about Tamba, you should be worrying about the offensive tackles. Turley got slapped around like a red headed step child yesterday. I do have to admit though, that Sampson is a vast improvment over Highway 65.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:02 AM   #48
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Maybe it is just frustration coming to the front. Maybe I think that the only way KC is going to win with it's defense (and it appears that it's going to have to) is to get more pressure from it's front four.

The defense played very well, but it'll have to do more than bend but don't break. It's going to have to give the offense short fields and the best way to do that is to get turnovers. Hali (ever since he was drafted) seems to be a DE that will give you the solid play, but not much more. Not enough to bring the defense to the next level.

It's not his fault. He is who he is. I guess I'm just frustrated knowing the shortcomings of this team and also knowing that they have no one on the roster to make up for it. Including the one guy who should.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:07 AM   #49
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Maybe it is just frustration coming to the front. Maybe I think that the only way KC is going to win with it's defense (and it appears that it's going to have to) is to get more pressure from it's front four.

The defense played very well, but it'll have to do more than bend but don't break. It's going to have to give the offense short fields and the best way to do that is to get turnovers. Hali (ever since he was drafted) seems to be a DE that will give you the solid play, but not much more. Not enough to bring the defense to the next level.

It's not his fault. He is who he is. I guess I'm just frustrated knowing the shortcomings of this team and also knowing that they have no one on the roster to make up for it. Including the one guy who should.
Would you have preferred it if the Chiefs drafted Mario Williams? Look at the stats of the #1 player drafted in the NFL and compare them to Hali. Hali's are better.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:08 AM   #50
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The Shortcomings of this team aren't the DEs or LBs...or secondary at this point.

There is a problem with 1 of the starting DT positions(Reed is doing a pretty damn good job for a FA) and both OTs...and all OT depth, because there is none.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:09 AM   #51
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Did you see a single Bootleg by Denver yesterday?

Shuddap. Hali and Allen did an excellent job of maintaining containment yesterday.
What ‘bout the way he sniffed out the reverse in, IIRC, the first quarter?
Man, I’m still laugh’n at the receiver on that one. His eyes were the size of diner plates when he took the handoff and realized Hali was there to smack’im for a 5 yard loss.
Hali IS making an impact and IS a huge upgrade over Hicks.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:09 AM   #52
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Maybe it is just frustration coming to the front. Maybe I think that the only way KC is going to win with it's defense (and it appears that it's going to have to) is to get more pressure from it's front four.

The defense played very well, but it'll have to do more than bend but don't break. It's going to have to give the offense short fields and the best way to do that is to get turnovers. Hali (ever since he was drafted) seems to be a DE that will give you the solid play, but not much more. Not enough to bring the defense to the next level.

It's not his fault. He is who he is. I guess I'm just frustrated knowing the shortcomings of this team and also knowing that they have no one on the roster to make up for it. Including the one guy who should.
Seriously. You really need to watch the games.

The only way KC is going to win is if the OFFENSE starts SCORING SOME POINTS.

You've bought into the pass rush argument to the point that your blind to the facts.

This team definitely has shortcomings. DE is no longer one of them.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:12 AM   #53
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Yes, His name was called early for being off side.
ironic, considering the announcers called movement on the Invescos.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:15 AM   #54
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Dude is around the ball all the time.

I don't understand some of you guys. Not every player can have 10 tackels, a forced fumble, and a sack.

Our Defense just held Denver to under 10 points, and if we would have won the coin toss, we probably would have won the game yesterday.

Sure the offense is conservative, it needed to be. Do you guys really want Damon effin Hurd dropping back and throwing the long ball? We basically used our passing game as part of the running game. We ate a ton of clock, had the lead at th half and lead most of the game.
We either led or were tied the entire game. Denver took the lead (and the win) on the last play.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:21 AM   #55
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That was a horrible call. The ref threw the flag PRIOR to Hali touching the facemask. Then Hali barely grazed it and they gave him the 15-yarder? That was awful.
He absolutely threw it before Hali grazed the facemask...they were looking for calls on us. Probably 'cause all the griping about Trent.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:21 AM   #56
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Hali is doing just fine. Anyone who says otherwise is not watching him play.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:27 AM   #57
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This moron could not possibly be watching the same game I watched. He might not have made a lot of tackles or sacks but he made Denver change their game plan and most importantly was around the ball all game. If you would like, PM me. I tivo'd the game and would be more than glad to send you a copy. This is the dumbiest thread I have ever read.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:27 AM   #58
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He's active around the LOS against the run but is probably never gonna be much of a pass rusher...but then again neither is Mario Williams who was the #1 pick in the draft...hell, the Texans backup LE is doing a better job getting after the quarterback than he is.
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He's active around the LOS against the run but is probably never gonna be much of a pass rusher...but then again neither is Mario Williams who was the #1 pick in the draft...hell, the Texans backup LE is doing a better job getting after the quarterback than he is.
That pick gets dumber and dumber by the game.
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Dwight Freeney sucks too.....He doesn't even have any sacks this year.
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