Should Merriman be a probowler? - Page 4

GROB · 12-22-2006, 02:04 PM

Roid boy was suspended this year for 4 games, should he of made the probowl?

Mecca · 12-22-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Luis Castillo must not be able to read either huh? Obviously you missed the meaning of the linseed joke-it supposedly makes things bigger, like Bonds head-get it dipshit. Go back to the San Roidiego boards with your inplausible theories.

It's funny how those 2 guys are 1000 times better than anything we have.....

Mr. Laz · 12-22-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The players union would come down on the league like a shit storm.....they have agreed to punishments they can't just take them beyond that because they feel like it.

i imagine the players association would welcome more of a team punishment being included.

and yes ... the league would consult with the players association before changing the punishment.

Oh Snap · 12-22-2006, 05:04 PM

Merriman is a cheater. The league is to soft and too forgiving with players who cheat to get the sort of recognition merriman is getting in the first place. He says hes better the DT better the LT.... They didnt cheat unlike him. The proved they were forreal without using steroids. Merriman hasnt! And by judging how the league has seemingly bent over backwards for the chargers lately, i wouldnt be suprised if the ****er (merriman) has paid the league off so he can go on his merry way cheating! I think he should have and astric applied to any and every stat he makes.

Mecca · 12-22-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i imagine the players association would welcome more of a team punishment being included.

and yes ... the league would consult with the players association before changing the punishment.

I seriously doubt it.....ever see how guys who have big roles act about it? Troy Vincent is the president of the players union. If he's on your team he won't play when anything is wrong with him and he'll tell your other players that they should sit out if anything is wrong with them because the team isn't looking out for them and doesn't care about them. It's on them to protect their careers, because if something happens the team will just cut them and not care.

Now he has a point but it is frustrating when half your team is sitting out with minor injuries.

Mecca · 12-22-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Merriman is a cheater. The league is to soft and too forgiving with players who cheat to get the sort of recognition merriman is getting in the first place. He says hes better the DT better the LT.... They didnt cheat unlike him. The proved they were forreal without using steroids. Merriman hasnt! And by judging how the league has seemingly bent over backwards for the chargers lately, i wouldnt be suprised if the ****er (merriman) has paid the league off so he can go on his merry way cheating! I think he should have and astric applied to any and every stat he makes.

Lawrence Taylor was probably more hyped up on drugs than any other player ever.....I think you should do some editing.

Halfcan · 12-22-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunk

At first I was also very skeptical about his story. (I didnt express my opinions or throw him under the bus yet like may people including charger fans did) After reading a lot more into it, I will only say that I will at least give him the benefit of the doubt now. Details are still sketchy because he is sueing the company, but more info will surface.

Lucky, the details of you being a Moron for believing such shit-is not sketchy at all.

Drunk · 12-22-2006, 05:08 PM

Nadrolone IS an anabolic steroid. So...Merriman was "on 'roids". Nadrolone helps increase both muscle growth and red bloodcell production. Essentially, giving Mr. Merriman a leg up on the competition. (also known as 'cheating')

The key word is WAS. People act as if he has been and still has Nandrolone in his system. He was tested several times before AND after the dirty sample. All times Negative. I am not disputing the fact that it is a steroid.

Many supplement products on the market today do not go through the stringent FDA testing required for other drugs. However, each NFL team makes available to it's players all legal dietary supplements from approved sources. There is no reason Mr. Merriman would need to obtain supplements from non-NFL approved sources.

AGREED.

Regardless, Nadrolone availability is only 2.24% when taken orally. Thus 97.76% of the trace amount ingested in a tainted batch of creatine powder or whatever they mystery supplement was (assuming for sake of argument that a schedule III controlled substance would some how end up in a legal nutritional supplement during the manufacturing process) would simply pass through Mr. Merriman's system, unused. Nadrolone itself is not detectable in urine, rather it is the byproduct of Nadrolone's metabolization that is detected in urine tests. Injection of Nadrolone provides 100% availability....even injections in the ass.

I dont know enough about the process to comment, but I have read various debates and disputes about exactly what you are talking about. I will try to dig some up.

Strangely enough, after Mr. Merriman used non-NFL approved supplements which he claims were somehow tainted, he dropped his appeal. Even more astounding, he refused to reveal the type or manufacturer of said supplement...leaving the public at risk to tainted supplements.

He dropped his appeal for the good of the team. Everyone knew that if his appeal dragged on, he would miss both Denver games. The reason he did not supply the name is because he is supposedly sueing the company.

Merriman got caught with an anabolic steroids in his system. His excuse is ridiculous. He cheated, he got caught. He should not be in the pro-bowl.

Obviously many Fans, Coaches, and Fellow players feel differently. Or know something we dont....

Mecca · 12-22-2006, 05:09 PM

Other players and coaches voted for the guy....so apparently it's not nearly the deal to them it seems to be to alot of fans.

Oh Snap · 12-22-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Lawrence Taylor was probably more hyped up on drugs than any other player ever.....I think you should do some editing.

Thats right he was a coke head. DT was a proven player though. He was greatness. He didnt cheat. He used his god given ability unlike the merrimans of the sport world.

Deberg_1990 · 12-22-2006, 05:11 PM

Merriman is a stud. Id take him as a Chief in a heartbeat.

Drunk · 12-22-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Luis Castillo must not be able to read either huh? Obviously you missed the meaning of the linseed joke-it supposedly makes things bigger, like Bonds head-get it dipshit. Go back to the San Roidiego boards with your inplausible theories.

It was an idiotic joke. You must have not gotten mine either huh.

Subtle, yet un-funny.

Silock · 12-22-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Actually, he's right there's alot of stuff in supplements that isn't listed.

And it follows that if you know you can be suspended and lose money for testing positive for banned substances that you would take care to use supplements that were condoned by the NFL.

I just don't buy that he didn't do it on purpose. With all that's at stake with your reputation, money and team success, there's absolutely no reason to not use the same thing that everyone else does -- unless you're doing something you're not supposed to.

Oh Snap · 12-22-2006, 05:12 PM

Its funny how a football athelete who is known for maticuously takeing care of his bodys doesnt even know what is going into his protien shakes!...

Mecca · 12-22-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

And it follows that if you know you can be suspended and lose money for testing positive for banned substances that you would take care to use supplements that were condoned by the NFL.

I just don't buy that he didn't do it on purpose. With all that's at stake with your reputation, money and team success, there's absolutely no reason to not use the same thing that everyone else does -- unless you're doing something you're not supposed to.

My opinion is this....it takes more than fan vote to get into the pro bowl. If other players and coaches think enough of him to vote him in and it doesn't bug them then I'm sure as hell not going to lose any sleep over it.

Drunk · 12-22-2006, 05:15 PM

"With all that's at stake with your reputation, money and team success, there's absolutely no reason to not use the same thing that everyone else does"

EXACTLY. Thats the question.

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Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $8934925	Merriman is a cheater. The league is to soft and too forgiving with players who cheat to get the sort of recognition merriman is getting in the first place. He says hes better the DT better the LT.... They didnt cheat unlike him. The proved they were forreal without using steroids. Merriman hasnt! And by judging how the league has seemingly bent over backwards for the chargers lately, i wouldnt be suprised if the ****er (merriman) has paid the league off so he can go on his merry way cheating! I think he should have and astric applied to any and every stat he makes.
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12-22-2006, 05:08 PM	#52
Drunk SixOneNineSicko Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California Casino cash: $10004925	Nadrolone IS an anabolic steroid. So...Merriman was "on 'roids". Nadrolone helps increase both muscle growth and red bloodcell production. Essentially, giving Mr. Merriman a leg up on the competition. (also known as 'cheating') The key word is WAS. People act as if he has been and still has Nandrolone in his system. He was tested several times before AND after the dirty sample. All times Negative. I am not disputing the fact that it is a steroid. Many supplement products on the market today do not go through the stringent FDA testing required for other drugs. However, each NFL team makes available to it's players all legal dietary supplements from approved sources. There is no reason Mr. Merriman would need to obtain supplements from non-NFL approved sources. AGREED. Regardless, Nadrolone availability is only 2.24% when taken orally. Thus 97.76% of the trace amount ingested in a tainted batch of creatine powder or whatever they mystery supplement was (assuming for sake of argument that a schedule III controlled substance would some how end up in a legal nutritional supplement during the manufacturing process) would simply pass through Mr. Merriman's system, unused. Nadrolone itself is not detectable in urine, rather it is the byproduct of Nadrolone's metabolization that is detected in urine tests. Injection of Nadrolone provides 100% availability....even injections in the ass. I dont know enough about the process to comment, but I have read various debates and disputes about exactly what you are talking about. I will try to dig some up. Strangely enough, after Mr. Merriman used non-NFL approved supplements which he claims were somehow tainted, he dropped his appeal. Even more astounding, he refused to reveal the type or manufacturer of said supplement...leaving the public at risk to tainted supplements. He dropped his appeal for the good of the team. Everyone knew that if his appeal dragged on, he would miss both Denver games. The reason he did not supply the name is because he is supposedly sueing the company. Merriman got caught with an anabolic steroids in his system. His excuse is ridiculous. He cheated, he got caught. He should not be in the pro-bowl. Obviously many Fans, Coaches, and Fellow players feel differently. Or know something we dont....
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12-22-2006, 05:09 PM	#53
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Other players and coaches voted for the guy....so apparently it's not nearly the deal to them it seems to be to alot of fans.
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12-22-2006, 05:11 PM	#55
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $104454	Merriman is a stud. Id take him as a Chief in a heartbeat. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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12-22-2006, 05:12 PM	#58
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $8934925	Its funny how a football athelete who is known for maticuously takeing care of his bodys doesnt even know what is going into his protien shakes!...
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12-22-2006, 05:15 PM	#60
Drunk SixOneNineSicko Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California Casino cash: $10004925	"With all that's at stake with your reputation, money and team success, there's absolutely no reason to not use the same thing that everyone else does" EXACTLY. Thats the question.
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