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Old 11-27-2007, 01:33 PM  
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The Official Walter Football Mock Draft Thread

As I make no secret, I love reading Walter Football. Not because the guy is particularly educated on the Chiefs, but because the guy's proud of his opinions and he has impressive knowledge of the incoming draft class.

Now, I'll have you know, every single mock he posted for us last year was wrong.

But that doesn't mean they aren't interesting.

I'll update this thread leading up to the Draft every time he updates his 2008 mock. I don't care about his 2009 mock. Plus, I'll only be focusing on the picks he gives the Chiefs.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008.php
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:41 PM   #46
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He's got a five rounder today! Six picks!

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem?

This is one reason why I think Glenn Dorsey could slip all the way down to No. 9. I think he's an incredible player, but I wouldn't touch him with a top-five selection. If he falls past Kansas City, the Jets, Patriots and Ravens won't take him because he doesn't fit their systems.

With Jake Long unavailable, I think it's pretty much between Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis. Given the former's injury issues, it has to be the tackle from USC. But it's not like the Chiefs aren't getting a mediocre player or anything; Ellis threw opposing offensive linemen aside as if they were small children at the Senior Bowl.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Anthony Collins, OT, Kansas
Even though Anthony Collins is a bit of a reach here, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Collins on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences.

101. Kansas City Chiefs: William Franklin, WR, Missouri
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh.

127. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

131. Kansas City Chiefs: John David Booty, QB, USC
A young quarterback to compete with Brodie Croyle for the starting job. John David Booty had the smallest hands of any quarterback at the combine, so he could be very prone to fumbling in the NFL.
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Old 03-05-2008, 04:43 PM   #47
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I CANNOT BELIEVE HE HAS US TAKING BOOTY IN THE 5TH. LOL.

I'm very iffy on this Draft. Ellis is a godsend, but Collins and Franklin are reaches, and Booty sucks.

I'm happy about Sullivan in the 5th and Williams in the 3rd, though.
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I CANNOT BELIEVE HE HAS US TAKING BOOTY IN THE 5TH. LOL.

I'm very iffy on this Draft. Ellis is a godsend, but Collins and Franklin are reaches, and Booty sucks.

I'm happy about Sullivan in the 5th and Williams in the 3rd, though.
If it actually fell that way, I'd prefer:

R1: Sedrick Ellis

R2: Tracy Porter or Early Doucet

R3: If Porter in R2, then Curtis Lofton. If Doucet in R2, then Trae Williams

R4: If we've passed on WR to this point, Earl Bennett. Otherwise, Eric Young.

R5: John Sullivan

R5: Chad Rinehart, Chevis Jackson or Harry Douglas.
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I think Early Doucet is a slot WR in the NFl...
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I watched Doucet play a few times down here in SEC country and while he's good, I don't really want the Chiefs to take him.
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I watched Doucet play a few times down here in SEC country and while he's good, I don't really want the Chiefs to take him.
Keep in mind that I said if it fell that way.

I'd rather not pick Porter OR Doucet in R2.

But there wasn't really anyone else available at that spot.
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From a couple days ago -- look at our second round reach. ****ing wow. I hate this Draft.

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem? Furthermore, there are now rumors circulating that this player had knee surgery.

This is one reason why I think Glenn Dorsey could slip all the way down to No. 9. I think he's an incredible player, but I wouldn't touch him with a top-five selection. Imagine how damaging it would be to a franchise if he plays for two or three seasons, and then has to call it quits because he can't walk anymore (think Courtney Brown)? If he falls past Kansas City, the Jets, Patriots and Ravens won't take him because he doesn't fit their systems.

With Jake Long unavailable, I think it's pretty much between Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis. Given the former's injury issues, it has to be the tackle from USC. But it's not like the Chiefs aren't getting a mediocre player or anything; Ellis threw opposing offensive linemen aside as if they were small children at the Senior Bowl.

And yes, I'm ignoring Matt Ryan. Once again, he's not a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending the 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech
The run on offensive tackles continues. Even though Duane Brown is a bit of a reach here, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Brown on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Speaking of Law, why hasn't he been released yet? The Chiefs told him they were going to cut him three weeks ago, but they have yet to do anything about it. What exactly is Carl Peterson doing?

101. Kansas City Chiefs: William Franklin, WR, Missouri
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

127. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

131. Kansas City Chiefs: John David Booty, QB, USC
A young quarterback to compete with Brodie Croyle for the starting job. John David Booty had the smallest hands of any quarterback at the combine, so he could be very prone to fumbling in the NFL.
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"Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite."

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And Duane Brown in the 2nd round is a horrendous pick.
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I like Duane Brown that's just way to early for him.
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I like Duane Brown that's just WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to early for him.
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He did what everyone bitched at me for not doing, he has a ton of teams taking OT's and has the Chiefs reaching rounds early to get one.
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Yeah but Duane Brown isn't even remotely the best OT left on the board. He's, at best, a mid-rounder.
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2nd round - Washington Redskins: Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
Washington needs to go after a massive wide out. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El were both in and out of the lineup last season, and the Redskins need a large receiver in the mix. At 6-2, 217, Jordy Nelson is much more physically imposing than both Moss and Randle El (both 5-10).


I find this kind of funny considering our mock draft.
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I love the repeated slams of Carl Peterson.

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
Let me ask you a question. Say you have a top-five pick, and you're looking at three talented players to draft with your selection. One of the guys might be slightly higher rated than the other two, but he has had chronic knee problems the past two years. He didn't miss any time, but he's always been in pain. Upon examining the player at the hospital instead of watching him working out at the combine, one doctor says he has major concerns about the prospect's knees. A week later, there are reports of other injuries no one even knew about. So, do you take a major risk and pray that his body holds up for 8-10 seasons, or do you take the slightly lesser talent, knowing that lingering injuries definitely won't be a problem? Furthermore, there are now rumors circulating that this player had knee surgery.

This is one reason why I think Glenn Dorsey could slip all the way down to No. 9. I think he's an incredible player, but I wouldn't touch him with a top-five selection. Imagine how damaging it would be to a franchise if he plays for two or three seasons, and then has to call it quits because he can't walk anymore (think Courtney Brown)? If he falls past Kansas City, the Jets, Patriots and Ravens won't take him because he doesn't fit their systems.

With Jake Long unavailable, I think it's pretty much between Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis. Given the former's injury issues, it has to be the tackle from USC. But it's not like the Chiefs aren't getting a mediocre player or anything; Ellis threw opposing offensive linemen aside as if they were small children at the Senior Bowl.

Another Tackle? There's growing speculation in the mock draft community that the Chiefs might be looking at another tackle, namely Ryan Clady or Jeff Otah. The reasoning behind this is the Chiefs need an offensive tackle more than anything. I have two problems with this. First, why reach for an inferior prospect when you can get a solid tackle atop Round 2? And second, I'm not even sure general manager Carl Peterson realizes that the position is such a dire need. Despite watching future Hall of Famers Willie Roaf and Will Shields retire in back-to-back years, Peterson completely neglected the offensive line. Peterson, in my opinion, is one of the worst GMs in the NFL, so I wouldn't be shocked if Kansas City once again fails to address the front.

Matt Ryan? Not a chance. Once again, Matt Ryan's not a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending the 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Sam Baker, OT, USC
Perhaps the team that benefits most from the DeAngelo Hall trade is Kansas City; without the Raiders drafting in front of them, there's a greater chance Sam Baker will still be on the board. If Baker's available, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Baker on the Chiefs' offensive front.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
The Chiefs look like they're going with Brodie Croyle in 2008, but I don't think they'll be able to resist Chad Henne if he's available at this juncture. I've never been impressed with Croyle; he has yet to win a game as a starting quarterback in the NFL (0-6).

101. Kansas City Chiefs: Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Law, another bust signing by inept general manager Carl Peterson, was recently cut.

127. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

131. Kansas City Chiefs: Donnie Avery, WR, Houston
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.
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