Eli Mannng vs. Rivers/Peyton - Page 4

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 10:35 PM

Manning and Rivers will forever be linked due to the draft day trade and the Chargers caving in to the pressure from the Mannings. Eli will also forever be compared to Peyton.

Well, it's pretty easy to see who got the better end of the draft day deal so let's move on to the brotherly comparisons. Eli has accomplished more in his first four seasons than Peyton. I have made the statements before and I'll say it again........with all the adversity that Eli had been through I believe he makes better reads and check downs than Peyton and thus is a better all around QB.

I've always felt Peyton had it easy in Indy. He was blessed to have the WR's he's had since coming into the league. It's easy to hit a deer in an open field. Ask Eli how much skill it takes to put the ball in traffic and make reads.

Any comments?

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

What? No way. Eli was putting balls into places that only his WR had a chance to get them.

You're reading too much into one game. Eli has never been an accurate QB and probably never will be. He has never completed 60 percent of his passes.

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

People see what they wanna see, I've come to this realization people hate players that have personality unless they are on their teams. "Oh look at Rivers what a punk"

It's pretty easy to see a QB talking smack to fans. That was most likely universal even in the eyes of a homer.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

You're right. He is anti-Croyle, Brodie can throw anywhere on the field with strength, and he has yet to taunt fans.

When Rivers gets hit or even injured he picks himself up and goes on...Croyle gets some sort of injury and goes and sits down...

Look Rivers doesn't have the best arm in the world or the best set of "natural talent" but I'll tell you what. I think his intangibles are better than Croyles by a long shot and I trust he'll be on the field.

There have been a ton of guys with cannon arms that can "make all the throws" that never panned out to shit. You better have a lot more than just "oh well his arm is strong".

blueballs · 01-20-2008, 11:18 PM

Denver homos loved Plummer flipping them off

Pablo · 01-20-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

How much did LT play against the Colts...oh yea...

I'm not saying Rivers is better than Manning is, I'm saying the attitude people have about him is hilarious. You'd think he was the worst QB ever.

People see what they wanna see, I've come to this realization people hate players that have personality unless they are on their teams. "Oh look at Rivers what a punk"

Not many people really like their rivals players. Rivers plays for the Chargers..so by default I already dislike him. I don't like Jay Cutler, but he is twice the talent Rivers is.

The only reason I like people like T.O. and Rivers talking trash is so they can shut the fuck up when they lose. That's it. Personality is fine. Jared Allen has personality...is he a fucktard like Rivers? No.

**dirk digler** · 01-20-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

You're reading too much into one game. Eli has never been an accurate QB and probably never will be. He has never completed 60 percent of his passes.

Yeah but the last 4-5 games Eli has been pretty damn good. He is the #1 reason why they are going to the SB

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

It's pretty easy to see a QB talking smack to fans. That was most likely universal even in the eyes of a homer.

Talking smack to the other teams fans, who cares? It's not like he flipped off his own stadium....

Football fans talk smack to each other, who cares. They probably razzed him all day he gave some back. I don't even think it's a big issue.

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

You're reading too much into one game. Eli has never been an accurate QB and probably never will be. He has never completed 60 percent of his passes.

I actually think that next season will be a good one to measure his progress after having so much success this season. Of course, a lot of that depends on any upgrades the team makes. I will agree that his completion percentage is not great up to this point. However, you cannot ignore the improvement in his completion percentage over the last ten to twelve games. He is spreading the ball better with the emergence of Smith and re-emergence of Toomer.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Not many people really like their rivals players. Rivers plays for the Chargers..so by default I already dislike him. I don't like Jay Cutler, but he is twice the talent Rivers is.

The only reason I like people like T.O. and Rivers talking trash is so they can shut the fuck up when they lose. That's it. Personality is fine. Jared Allen has personality...is he a fucktard like Rivers? No.

I hope all players show personality, I don't want the league to become this nameless faceless league where no one has any personality and they are just robots.

**dirk digler** · 01-20-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

When Rivers gets hit or even injured he picks himself up and goes on...Croyle gets some sort of injury and goes and sits down...

Look Rivers doesn't have the best arm in the world or the best set of "natural talent" but I'll tell you what. I think his intangibles are better than Croyles by a long shot and I trust he'll be on the field.

There have been a ton of guys with cannon arms that can "make all the throws" that never panned out to shit. You better have a lot more than just "oh well his arm is strong".

I am not a big Croyle fan but that is a load of BS. Croyle got hit more times in 1 game than Rivers has all year.

I saw Brodie take some wicked shots this year and bounce right back up

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yeah but the last 4-5 games Eli has been pretty damn good. He is the #1 reason why they are going to the SB

Their defense is actually.

Pablo · 01-20-2008, 11:22 PM

Eli is taking his team to the Superbowl. End of story. Beating the Packers at Lambeau with Brett Favre magic and all that bullshit is no easy feat. The NFC is a weaker conference, no doubt, but to act like the Chargers would steamroll the Packers or Giants is ludicrous.

**FRCDFED** · 01-20-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Their defense is actually.

Mecca · 01-20-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am not a big Croyle fan but that is a load of BS. Croyle got hit more times in 1 game than Rivers has all year.

I saw Brodie take some wicked shots this year and bounce right back up

Hey just sayin, Rivers supposedly has a partial tear of his ACL and he was playing...Croyle sat with what was it a some sort of bruise...

Anyway just their histories say Rivers is more durable.

Hammock Parties · 01-20-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

However, you cannot ignore the improvement in his completion percentage over the last ten to twelve games.

What improvement?

Eli's completion percentage in December was 50.6.

01-20-2008, 10:35 PM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Eli Mannng vs. Rivers/Peyton Manning and Rivers will forever be linked due to the draft day trade and the Chargers caving in to the pressure from the Mannings. Eli will also forever be compared to Peyton. Well, it's pretty easy to see who got the better end of the draft day deal so let's move on to the brotherly comparisons. Eli has accomplished more in his first four seasons than Peyton. I have made the statements before and I'll say it again........with all the adversity that Eli had been through I believe he makes better reads and check downs than Peyton and thus is a better all around QB. I've always felt Peyton had it easy in Indy. He was blessed to have the WR's he's had since coming into the league. It's easy to hit a deer in an open field. Ask Eli how much skill it takes to put the ball in traffic and make reads. Any comments?
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Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $1689356	Eli is taking his team to the Superbowl. End of story. Beating the Packers at Lambeau with Brett Favre magic and all that bullshit is no easy feat. The NFC is a weaker conference, no doubt, but to act like the Chargers would steamroll the Packers or Giants is ludicrous.
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