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Old 03-19-2008, 12:20 PM  
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Which team would you become a fan of ...
... if Herm has been signed to a contract extension or something else similarly awful?
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:15 AM   #46
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I had a horrible idea... What if the Chiefs got so bad that we would have to delegate one of us on the board to bite the bullet and watch the game giving the rest of us the recap and play by play. I wouldn't have to yell at the TV anymore! Nah... Horrible Idea!
Well someone should have to be miserable for us...

FWIW, I dont mind the Chiefs being bad and "rebuilding", What is making it unbearable is the morans that are in control. Remove Carl and Herm, and the stadium would fill back up win or lose. Its called "hope", with Carl and Herm there is no such thing.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:15 AM   #47
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For the record, it's got very little to do with winning. It's about direction, attitude, commitment to winning, etc. In fact, I wouldn't even consider a team that's won a lot recently or figures to be a top team for the coming years -- New England, Indy, Dallas, etc.

Minnesota's ownership seems to care. Atlanta (eww) and Tampa Bay would be considerations.

It's to the point with the Chiefs that I root only for a few players. That could all change -- another dogshit season followed by the long-overdue removal of Carl, Herm, etc., and I'm on the bandwagon for another 30 years. That alone would show me that Clark Hunt cares about winning, even if it's just a little bit, and will do what is necessary to get the right people for the job.

I've said to myself that I'll give Hunt until CP/Herm's contract ends. I'd be completely f**ked off if Clark doesn't get rid of them after next year's awful showing, but to not go in a different direction after two full years from now -- 20+ years after Carl's insertion -- that would be the end.

An extension before then?! SEE YA.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:23 AM   #48
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2 - Understand this.... No coach was going to come in here after the mess DV created and have a good squad. It was a ticking timebomb. No coach.
Bingo - Vermy set this franchise back years, coming here with the sole purpose of showing that he was the "mastermind" behind the '99 Rams explosion.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:26 AM   #49
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I have been a Chiefs fan and a Chicago Cubs fan all my life and will continue to be. I guess I've just grown use to misery after a combined 138 years of no World Titles!
You poor soul. That's as bad as it gets. I will pray for you...
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:26 AM   #50
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Remove Carl and Herm, and the stadium would fill back up win or lose. Its called "hope", with Carl and Herm there is no such thing.
I'm not sure I'd bet on that. I'd say we've reached the point where the only thing that'll fill up arrowhead is winning. 10 years is a long time to suck, and, hell, the exodus started back about 1999. Even then, TV stations in town were buying thousands of tickets a week in November and December to keep the games on the air, and it's been a steady spiral downwards since.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:35 AM   #51
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You poor soul. That's as bad as it gets. I will pray for you...
What's worse is that he totally missed the 1969 Super Bowl that the Chiefs won.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:44 AM   #52
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Judging by the state of the team today and what it will likely look like at the end of Carl Peterson's tenure one can only wonder if he regrets signing that extension.

In 2005 he could have retired with a winning team under his belt (yes, it was a house of cards but still) and looked smart for drafting Larry Johnson.

Instead there's a very real possibility he'll look like a stubborn GM who didn't know when to pass the torch an be escorted out of town by pitchfork and torch.

Scarier; will the next GM even want Herm and will the team be starting over yet again?

Lesson to be learned here boys: know when to call it quits.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:51 AM   #53
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I'm not sure I'd bet on that. I'd say we've reached the point where the only thing that'll fill up arrowhead is winning. 10 years is a long time to suck, and, hell, the exodus started back about 1999. Even then, TV stations in town were buying thousands of tickets a week in November and December to keep the games on the air, and it's been a steady spiral downwards since.
Well not being in the local market, I didnt know that information. Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:55 AM   #54
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Scarier; will the next GM even want Herm and will the team be starting over yet again?
Well in all fairness Otter, When DV lefted, Carl could of been the savior and went and hired a new coaching staff, with a modern NFL philoshopy. He could of snagged a young and up coming coordinator, gave him the freedom to build his coaching staff, some, not all draft decision, let him have control over who stays/goes/starts/build his team, etc... He would of looked like a genius and KC would be singing his praises...

But no, he kept the good ol boy network in full swing at Arrowhead, pulled the dark cloud back over the fans and went on with one goal and that was to drive the fans away with petty media blastings from his favorite cockholster gretz...

He had a chance to win over the city once agian, but instead he is pissing down our necks and telling us its raining....
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:08 AM   #55
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Well in all fairness Otter, When DV lefted, Carl could of been the savior and went and hired a new coaching staff, with a modern NFL philoshopy. He could of snagged a young and up coming coordinator, gave him the freedom to build his coaching staff, some, not all draft decision, let him have control over who stays/goes/starts/build his team, etc... He would of looked like a genius and KC would be singing his praises...

But no, he kept the good ol boy network in full swing at Arrowhead, pulled the dark cloud back over the fans and went on with one goal and that was to drive the fans away with petty media blastings from his favorite cockholster gretz...

He had a chance to win over the city once agian, but instead he is pissing down our necks and telling us its raining....
Don't get me wrong, I feel no sympathy for that cock sucker and I agree one of the biggest reasons the team is in the shape it is in today is because of "hiring by inbreeding".

Just thinking out loud on whether he wishes he could have a get out of jail free card. I know I would at this point if I were him.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:15 AM   #56
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Don't get me wrong, I feel no sympathy for that cock sucker and I agree one of the biggest reasons the team is in the shape it is in today is because of "hiring by inbreeding".

Just thinking out loud on whether he wishes he could have a get out of jail free card. I know I would at this point if I were him.

Hiring by inbreading? Perfect!

I wasnt bashing, just stating that Carl had the chance to be "the man" once again, just like in the late 80's. He could of shown KC that he was serious about winning a championship by thinking outside of gretz ass...

Well he didnt, we are stuck with a 1988 LX 4 cylinder Mustang, while the rest of the NFL are driving European sports cars... Our coaches just cant compete at this level...
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:06 AM   #57
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I can never change teams, but I was watching that cool SB show on NFL net.
Can't remember the damn name. I watched the Steelers, and The Cowboys SB after the 78 season, and was very jealous of the Steelers, their fans, and their history.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:25 AM   #58
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:27 PM   #60
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I would stay a Chiefs fan.

Count me among the few that really likes Herm Edwards and what he is doing to the team.
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