Chiefs Keep Playing Thigpen - Page 4

Mr. Laz · 09-22-2008, 11:37 AM

i know i'm one of the few ... but i think we should continue to play Thigpen until Croyle is ready to come back.

listen for sec

Thigpen was a 7th round draft pick out of a division 2 school. The school he played at was in their FIRST year of having a football team.

Dude .... it's perfectly understandable for Thigpen to be overwhelmed and a bit scared. He's playing on an offense with a shaky Oline under a coaching staff that's moronic at best.

what do you expect?

even the best QB's lose their accuracy when they are nervous about the pass rush. Ben Rothlisberger turned to complete crap yesterday when he started getting hit.

Thigpen has showed flashes and he's not fragile ... he can run around and get get killed by our offensive ineptitude.

i know it sucks but at least we are developing a solid backup.

and who knows .... when/if he gets over his nervousness and when/if our new offensive lineman improve, he may just pull it together.

how can you blame any QB when he's playing under Herman Edwards .... our coach is a QB killer. He could work for the Grim Reaper he's killed so many NFL Quarterbacks.

just say "no" to Huard and Inglebert humper Martin is a complete unknown and new to the system

patience people, Thigpen should stay in until Croyle comes back.

svuba · 09-22-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Your first part of the post perfectly states why he shouldn't start......at least now that reg season games are underway.

People seem to forget that we went 5-3 under Huard in 2006 and was the prime reason why we went to the playoffs that season.

and got smoked!

Huard and a decent run game from Johnson and this offense isn't a terrible as people think. Huard gives them the best chance to win.....gives the young players the best chance to develope.

Johnson looked better yesterday, but when the game is on the line, and the other team is actually trying ...not so good...

How are our WR's supposed to develope when Thigpen keeps throwing it to the other team??? He is horribly inaccurate. You think overcoming his nervousness is gonna solve his problems?!?!?

FACT is this is a completely different game than whats he's ever been used to.

You don't ask 7th rd draft picks you picked up off of Waivers list (this is also someone that couldnt beat out a shitty Tavaris Jackson) to start in reg season games, at least not this early when there is still a lot at stake......

There is nothing at stake here stop kidding yourself. This team would not be competitive this year with Romo, or Brady, or Montana, Or the predator at QB.

Is Huard good? No.......is he the best option we have til Croyle gets back.......yes.

Starting Thigpen is like us starting James Killian and see what he has to offer. We didn't draft Killian really thinking he was gonna succeed Trent Green. Thigpen and Killian are projects.....you don't waste reg season games on players like them when they are CLEARLY not ready to do so......especially at the teams most important position, when others are trying to develope as well.

It's the regular season and you have to start your best players......Herm is treating this season (so far) like an extended pre-season.

Reality check here folks,...We are not going to the playoffs....Huard is too old to be QBOTF.....Let Thigpen start

CoMoChief · 09-22-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by svuba

Reality check here folks,...We are not going to the playoffs....Huard is too old to be QBOTF.....Let Thigpen start

Im not saying we will......now it's to the point where we just need to worry about helping other players develope, which Huard gives the other players the best chance to do that.....not Tyler ****ing 7th rd waiver Thigpen.

Katie · 09-22-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

all I know... the animals at the STL Zoo were awesome on a beautiful indian summer day... F sitting watching those loser teams play.

highlights/lowlights are good enough at this point. Actually ran into another Chiefs fan there...
we laughed and cut up about the whold thing.

Sad,,, just sad...

patteeu · 09-22-2008, 04:28 PM

I feel sorry for Huard who, up until last year, had to play behind better QBs and now that he's the best QB on the team, he's too old to be relevant. But I agree that Thigpen should play until Croyle returns unless Herm is faced with a revolt from the team.

Sure-Oz · 09-22-2008, 04:29 PM

Why oh Why did croyle have to get ****ing hurt, trade for Sage Rosenfels

**Iowanian** · 09-22-2008, 04:34 PM

NO.

Playing a QB who sucks will reerun the development of the rest of the team.

This, is my only problem with playing him over Huard.

Even if Huard could muster 4-5 more first downs per game than Thigpen, thats 12-15 more offensive snaps per game of experience and small successful play potential for the REST of the young players, and that many less minutes on the field for the D(who also needs plenty of reps...but not this way)

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-22-2008, 04:34 PM

We need to sign this guy:

**Iowanian** · 09-22-2008, 04:38 PM

I can't say enough times that the hypocricy is what pisses me off.

Herm is playing Thigpen because he can't get better without the snaps....Fine.

McIngash and herm's son at RG are aweful....At least the young guys have a CHANCE at getting better with plays. They surely wouldn't get the QB ko'd too many more times, and couldn't be any worse in Run blocking.

Hell, at least let them take half the snaps, or play the 2nd half after its out of reach anyway.

Micjones · 09-22-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

NO.

Playing a QB who sucks will reerun the development of the rest of the team.

This, is my only problem with playing him over Huard.

Even if Huard could muster 4-5 more first downs per game than Thigpen, thats 12-15 more offensive snaps per game of experience and small successful play potential for the REST of the young players, and that many less minutes on the field for the D(who also needs plenty of reps...but not this way)

You mean there are other players on this football team that need development?

You're saying that six consecutive drives that lead to zero offensive productivity isn't conducive to that development?

Unbelievable.

KChiefs1 · 09-22-2008, 05:18 PM

I say play Thigpen til Croyle gets back & then put him in again once Croyle gets injured again....if you are going to be a loser than be the best the NFL has ever seen!

KCCHIEFS27 · 09-22-2008, 05:20 PM

So why did we sign Ingle Martin? To scare Thigpen into playing better? Martin is an unknown,but so is Thigpen. How are we supposed to know what we have if we don't try everybody? Haha..build confidence..did anybody notice the end of the Raiders game when Thigpen had some alright throws, one for a TD to TG and then comes out against the Falcons and sucks it up? It doesn't matter..we are all idiots for caring which 4th string QB we play..

Micjones · 09-22-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27

So why did we sign Ingle Martin? To scare Thigpen into playing better? Martin is an unknown,but so is Thigpen. How are we supposed to know what we have if we don't try everybody? Haha..build confidence..did anybody notice the end of the Raiders game when Thigpen had some alright throws, one for a TD to TG and then comes out against the Falcons and sucks it up? It doesn't matter..we are all idiots for caring which 4th string QB we play..

Herm has shown time and again that he's completely lost on how to fix what ails this team. His offensive tampering, alone, is enough for me to show him the door.

**the Talking Can** · 09-22-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

i know i'm one of the few ... but i think we should continue to play Thigpen until Croyle is ready to come back.

listen for sec

Thigpen was a 7th round draft pick out of a division 2 school. The school he played at was in their FIRST year of having a football team.

Dude .... it's perfectly understandable for Thigpen to be overwhelmed and a bit scared. He's playing on an offense with a shaky Oline under a coaching staff that's moronic at best.

what do you expect?

even the best QB's lose their accuracy when they are nervous about the pass rush. Ben Rothlisberger turned to complete crap yesterday when he started getting hit.

Thigpen has showed flashes and he's not fragile ... he can run around and get get killed by our offensive ineptitude.

i know it sucks but at least we are developing a solid backup.

and who knows .... when/if he gets over his nervousness and when/if our new offensive lineman improve, he may just pull it together.

how can you blame any QB when he's playing under Herman Edwards .... our coach is a QB killer. He could work for the Grim Reaper he's killed so many NFL Quarterbacks.

just say "no" to Huard and Inglebert humper Martin is a complete unknown and new to the system

patience people, Thigpen should stay in until Croyle comes back.

totally agree

thigpen has the capacity to improve, huard doesn't...end of story

huard is an old quitter that no one on this team wants to play....he won't be here next year....

but chiefs fans have spent a solid week crying that the fate of our franchise depends on a career backup and quitter named huard....

embarrassing

i thought hootie's bleeding for huard was the most embarrassing thing ever, but we're getting close again....

never has such a shitty, old, quitting, backup earned the love of fans....it does not speak well of us....but perfectly explains why we have embraced Carl's 15 years mediocrity...

**Reaper16** · 09-22-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Thigpen was a 7th round draft pick out of a division 2 school.

Coastal Carolina is an FCS (1-AA) school, not Division II.

**HemiEd** · 09-22-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Herm has shown time and again that he's completely lost on how to fix what ails this team. His offensive tampering, alone, is enough for me to show him the door.

Your best post I have ever read.

09-22-2008, 11:37 AM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Keep Playing Thigpen i know i'm one of the few ... but i think we should continue to play Thigpen until Croyle is ready to come back. listen for sec Thigpen was a 7th round draft pick out of a division 2 school. The school he played at was in their FIRST year of having a football team. Dude .... it's perfectly understandable for Thigpen to be overwhelmed and a bit scared. He's playing on an offense with a shaky Oline under a coaching staff that's moronic at best. what do you expect? even the best QB's lose their accuracy when they are nervous about the pass rush. Ben Rothlisberger turned to complete crap yesterday when he started getting hit. Thigpen has showed flashes and he's not fragile ... he can run around and get get killed by our offensive ineptitude. i know it sucks but at least we are developing a solid backup. and who knows .... when/if he gets over his nervousness and when/if our new offensive lineman improve, he may just pull it together. how can you blame any QB when he's playing under Herman Edwards .... our coach is a QB killer. He could work for the Grim Reaper he's killed so many NFL Quarterbacks. just say "no" to Huard and Inglebert humper Martin is a complete unknown and new to the system patience people, Thigpen should stay in until Croyle comes back.
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09-22-2008, 04:28 PM	#49
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09-22-2008, 04:34 PM	#51
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1648454	NO. Playing a QB who sucks will reerun the development of the rest of the team. This, is my only problem with playing him over Huard. Even if Huard could muster 4-5 more first downs per game than Thigpen, thats 12-15 more offensive snaps per game of experience and small successful play potential for the REST of the young players, and that many less minutes on the field for the D(who also needs plenty of reps...but not this way)
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09-22-2008, 04:34 PM	#52
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	We need to sign this guy: __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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09-22-2008, 04:38 PM	#53
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1648454	I can't say enough times that the hypocricy is what pisses me off. Herm is playing Thigpen because he can't get better without the snaps....Fine. McIngash and herm's son at RG are aweful....At least the young guys have a CHANCE at getting better with plays. They surely wouldn't get the QB ko'd too many more times, and couldn't be any worse in Run blocking. Hell, at least let them take half the snaps, or play the 2nd half after its out of reach anyway.
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09-22-2008, 05:18 PM	#55
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	I say play Thigpen til Croyle gets back & then put him in again once Croyle gets injured again....if you are going to be a loser than be the best the NFL has ever seen! __________________
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09-22-2008, 05:20 PM	#56
KCCHIEFS27 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: KS Casino cash: $10019064	So why did we sign Ingle Martin? To scare Thigpen into playing better? Martin is an unknown,but so is Thigpen. How are we supposed to know what we have if we don't try everybody? Haha..build confidence..did anybody notice the end of the Raiders game when Thigpen had some alright throws, one for a TD to TG and then comes out against the Falcons and sucks it up? It doesn't matter..we are all idiots for caring which 4th string QB we play..
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