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Hootie · 09-28-2008, 07:17 PM

Generally, I give the coaches of professional teams the benefit of the doubt over "know-it-all" fans...

But Herb friggin' Taylor played great at LT today and you cannot tell me he isn't better than dumbass McIntosh at RT...

and the fact DeMorrio Williams has been riding the bench the whole year with our awful LB'ing core is ridiculous...

and Surtain doesn't deserve his starting spot back when he's healthy...I think Carr has been our best CB so far...and Flowers has been pretty damn good as well.

**** our coaches.

Hootie · 09-28-2008, 08:09 PM

If Savage keeps it up on the returns, we won't even remember a Kevin Robinson existed in this franchise next year.

Pitt Gorilla · 09-28-2008, 08:16 PM

I wonder how Richardson is doing? I always thought he could be an excellent guard, but I'm no talent scout.

evolve27 · 09-28-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

If Savage keeps it up on the returns, we won't even remember a Kevin Robinson existed in this franchise next year.

Yeah, we won't know till he gets a chance, but with Savages return ability well we might just move on a draft a legit #2 WR of the DeSean Jackson or Eddie Royal small speedy-type frame would open up the run game and compete with Franklin.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-28-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

If this happens, I really hope we keep Huard and Croyle (or bring in someone like Brian Griese) and sit our #1 QB 3rd on the depth chart. I don't care if he outplays both of them in camp...if we draft Stafford/Sanchez/Bradford I don't want any of those guys to sniff the field in 2009.

I think that's just a recipe for disaster. I also think most fans on this site would be ok with another year of Huard if we have a guy like Bradford who we know will be the starter in 2010...

You can't tell me a win like this isn't good for this team's morale. I think most of us have finally given up on Croyle so playing the best QB at this time and getting those 6 wins is very important for the young guys on this team IMO.

I agree with you. I'm not putting a rookie QB on the field next year.

I'm signing a Jeff Garcia type. I think he could do well here for a year while we get someone ready.

Hootie · 09-28-2008, 08:21 PM

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I agree with you. I'm not putting a rookie QB on the field next year.

I'm signing a Jeff Garcia type. I think he could do well here for a year while we get someone ready.

If we have a running game, I don't really see a difference between Garcia and Huard, I'd be ok with both.

Shit...

Garcia/Huard/Rookie 1st rounder works for me.

If we fill some of our holes we could compete next year for a playoff spot with Jeff Garcia running the show and we could be developing a QB of the future at the same time who can take over the team in 2010 or 2011 when all of our great young prospects are reaching their full potential a la Aaron Rodgers.

I think that's the current blueprint in this copycat league.

keg in kc · 09-28-2008, 08:22 PM

I'd want somebody better than Huard mentoring a QB, but I'm not sure who you could get to come fill the role.

milkman · 09-28-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I wonder how Richardson is doing? I always thought he could be an excellent guard, but I'm no talent scout.

I don't know what to think of Richardson.

I like his size, and he is really athletic and graceful for a man his size.

A guy with his natural ability and size should be able to play RT at an All Pro level.

Because of his natural ability, it made me think at one point, because of Herb Taylor's instinctive use of leverage, that he's (Taylor) a guy that should be trasitioned to center.

The center position in this offense, more than any, is one that has to be able to get leverage, moreso than using brute strength.

If Richardson were to pan out, it's still an option that I would like to see the Chiefs consider.

Hootie · 09-28-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'd want somebody better than Huard mentoring a QB, but I'm not sure who you could get to come fill the role.

I don't know...what's not to like about Huard as a mentor? It's not like the first round super talented rookie QB is going to learn how to be immobile and Huard-like...

I don't think Brett Favre mentored Aaron Rodgers.

I think the idea of having a QB sit a few years is so they can learn the speed of the game by watching, partaking in practices and preseason, and really learning the system and becoming comfortable with teammates and coaches and the NFL life.

I think that has had more to do with Rodgers' success as opposed to him "learning" behind Favre.

evolve27 · 09-28-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I wonder how Richardson is doing? I always thought he could be an excellent guard, but I'm no talent scout.

I want to see him on the field maybe play for Adrian Jone's spot this year. He fell pretty far down in the draft which is strange even though he had alot of experience at Clemson @ LT putting up 141 career knockdown blocks which is pretty impressive and is known for his size. Upside is there if he can get healthy and is put in a G IMO.

milkman · 09-28-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I don't know...what's not to like about Huard as a mentor? It's not like the first round super talented rookie QB is going to learn how to be immobile and Huard-like...

I don't think Brett Favre mentored Aaron Rodgers.

I think the idea of having a QB sit a few years is so they can learn the speed of the game by watching, partaking in practices and preseason, and really learning the system and becoming comfortable with teammates and coaches and the NFL life.

I think that has had more to do with Rodgers' success as opposed to him "learning" behind Favre.

Rogers did an interveiw on the Dan Patrick show.

He said that Favre wasn't really receptive to him in his rookie season, but he warmed up to him in his second season and he really learned a lot from favre.

Hootie · 09-28-2008, 08:28 PM

I think we got some really great value out of our 5th (Carr), 6th (Richardson) and 7th (Johnston) round picks...

For that alone Herm should probably get another year or two, Carl needs to be gone though. Something needs to be done to win back the fans.

Hootie · 09-28-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Rogers did an interveiw on the Dan Patrick show.

He said that Favre wasn't really receptive to him in his rookie season, but he warmed up to him in his second season and he really learned a lot from favre.

Well ok I'm not going to argue that and it might be true and I might be way off base, but what else is he going to say?

Would I rather have Brett Favre lead the Chiefs next season with our rookie QB on the bench opposed to Huard? Yes.

But I think, if Huard is good for ONE thing, it is being a positive role model for a young guy...

From what I hear/read, he has been very supportive of Croyle. I'm not saying that has helped Croyle develop as a QB, but we're seeing now that Croyle really should have never seen the field last year with our pathetic team/coaching...there is nothing worse than a QB with shattered confidence and I think Croyle is done.

milkman · 09-28-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Well ok I'm not going to argue that and it might be true and I might be way off base, but what else is he going to say?

Would I rather have Brett Favre lead the Chiefs next season with our rookie QB on the bench opposed to Huard? Yes.

But I think, if Huard is good for ONE thing, it is being a positive role model for a young guy...

From what I hear/read, he has been very supportive of Croyle. I'm not saying that has helped Croyle develop as a QB, but we're seeing now that Croyle really should have never seen the field last year with our pathetic team/coaching...there is nothing worse than a QB with shattered confidence and I think Croyle is done.

While we disagree on why he's done, we do agree that Croyle is/should be done.

keg in kc · 09-28-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I don't know...what's not to like about Huard as a mentor? It's not like the first round super talented rookie QB is going to learn how to be immobile and Huard-like...

I don't think Brett Favre mentored Aaron Rodgers.

I think the idea of having a QB sit a few years is so they can learn the speed of the game by watching, partaking in practices and preseason, and really learning the system and becoming comfortable with teammates and coaches and the NFL life.

I think that has had more to do with Rodgers' success as opposed to him "learning" behind Favre.

I can't think of any quality Huard has that I'd want a young quarterback to imitate. I guess if you want to try and train someone to be an occasionally competent game manager who folds under pressure in the pocket, he's our guy.

If the idea is to start winning in the next year we need someone better. If Huard wants to hang around and hold a clipboard, that's fine.

Hootie · 09-28-2008, 08:35 PM

I'm torn right now.

I know that we aren't going to win a lot of games this year. I also think Huard is our most efficient QB and I think it does wonders for our young guys, especially on offense, to have some positive drives here and there and get something positive going...

but I mean, what's the point of not giving Croyle another shot when he's healthy? I don't know...I'm up in the air at this point and wouldn't be upset at either decision...I'm ok with Croyle getting his spot back or I'm ok with Huard keeping his spot.

09-28-2008, 07:17 PM
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	So... Generally, I give the coaches of professional teams the benefit of the doubt over "know-it-all" fans... But Herb friggin' Taylor played great at LT today and you cannot tell me he isn't better than dumbass McIntosh at RT... and the fact DeMorrio Williams has been riding the bench the whole year with our awful LB'ing core is ridiculous... and Surtain doesn't deserve his starting spot back when he's healthy...I think Carr has been our best CB so far...and Flowers has been pretty damn good as well. **** our coaches.
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09-28-2008, 08:09 PM	#46
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	If Savage keeps it up on the returns, we won't even remember a Kevin Robinson existed in this franchise next year.
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $2660194	I wonder how Richardson is doing? I always thought he could be an excellent guard, but I'm no talent scout. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I'd want somebody better than Huard mentoring a QB, but I'm not sure who you could get to come fill the role.
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09-28-2008, 08:28 PM	#56
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I think we got some really great value out of our 5th (Carr), 6th (Richardson) and 7th (Johnston) round picks... For that alone Herm should probably get another year or two, Carl needs to be gone though. Something needs to be done to win back the fans.
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09-28-2008, 08:35 PM	#60
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm torn right now. I know that we aren't going to win a lot of games this year. I also think Huard is our most efficient QB and I think it does wonders for our young guys, especially on offense, to have some positive drives here and there and get something positive going... but I mean, what's the point of not giving Croyle another shot when he's healthy? I don't know...I'm up in the air at this point and wouldn't be upset at either decision...I'm ok with Croyle getting his spot back or I'm ok with Huard keeping his spot.
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