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booger · 10-14-2008, 11:02 PM

Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-tradeby Jay Glazer
Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider.

Updated: October 14, 2008, 11:46 PM EST

Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez.

But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion.

Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end." (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images)

"I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened.

"Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair.

"I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation."

So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates.

"I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding.

"When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it."

Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder.

"If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me.

"But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."

Lonewolf Ed · 10-15-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Given the circumstances, this is about the best thing Gonzo could have said. If his actions follow, I'll be more impressed with him than ever. I understand why he wanted out, but now that he's here, play ball.

Does anyone think Carl and Herm might call plays to throw as little as possible (not that he's being throw to a lot now...) to Tony and make him block, instead, for spite?

Mr. Arrowhead · 10-15-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Glazer was on Fox Sports Radio and said Buffalo offered a 3rd but Tony turned down going there with the cold and being too far away from California. So I wouldnt put it all on Carl.

But he wanted to play for the Giants? WTF is the difference

Chiefnj2 · 10-15-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed

Does anyone think Carl and Herm might call plays to throw as little as possible (not that he's being throw to a lot now...) to Tony and make him block, instead, for spite?

LIke when he was close to setting the record at home against Denver?

Sure-Oz · 10-15-2008, 08:15 AM

Carl is a dipshit, but Tony had atleast 1 ticket out of town and should've taken it. There is really not much of a distance difference between buffalo and NY

This just sounds very odd he wouldn't take it...

Demonpenz · 10-15-2008, 08:21 AM

The rats are always the first to jump off a sinking ship

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Did you not read the article?

As mecca pointed out, even Tony knows that no one is going to give up more than a third for a 32 year old TE, and a third was on the table.

They weren't going to take it in the "arse".

They were offered fair market value.

All that means is Tony has more value to the Chiefs than what was offered. Not hard to understand that he means more to KC than to other NFL cities.

Sure-Oz · 10-15-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

All that means is Tony has more value to the Chiefs than what was offered. Not hard to understand that he means more to KC than to other NFL cities.

To the fans he's great...but he doesn't want to be here and probably will retire soon and we won't get shit for him. He isn't going to help us get in the playoffs, we are a long way from that.

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NY CHIEF

Should of shipped him off to buffalo....like it or not

My understanding is veteran players can veto a trade according to the current CBA.

**HemiEd** · 10-15-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

Carl has tickets to sell. He would have even more tickets to sell if he traded him.

Bingo. Oh, and it was another chance to show Herm ****ing Edwards, who is really the boss.

SBK · 10-15-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Bingo. Oh, and it was another chance to show Herm ****ing Edwards, who is really the boss.

I think it has more to do with this than tickets to sell. What a tool.

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

To the fans he's great...but he doesn't want to be here and probably will retire soon and we won't get shit for him. He isn't going to help us get in the playoffs, we are a long way from that.

We are only in position to speculate on when he will retire. I think he will play at least 3 more years, which is enough time to get him to the playoffs again.

Typically 3rd round picks take 2+ years to develop and equivalent talent is available through free agency every off season so I see more value in keeping Gonzo. We are not talking about just any player we are talking about a HOF who is part of the very fabric of the organization and is a great mentor and leader to the young guys. The team needs a few veterans on the team to lead by example, thus I think the Chiefs need Gonzo more than another 3rd round pick.

milkman · 10-15-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

All that means is Tony has more value to the Chiefs than what was offered. Not hard to understand that he means more to KC than to other NFL cities.

I don't disagree.

I fully understand that Tony is worth more to the Chiefs,

But the point remains that the Chiefs were offered fair market value.

milkman · 10-15-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

We are only in position to speculate on when he will retire. I think he will play at least 3 more years, which is enough time to get him to the playoffs again.

Typically 3rd round picks take 2+ years to develop and equivalent talent is available through free agency every off season so I see more value in keeping Gonzo. We are not talking about just any player we are talking about a HOF who is part of the very fabric of the organization and is a great mentor and leader to the young guys. The team needs a few veterans on the team to lead by example, thus I think the Chiefs need Gonzo more than another 3rd round pick.

Maybe it's just me, but I would have a difficult time following the lead of a teammate that made it pretty clear that he didn't want to be here to lead.

**Rausch** · 10-15-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

But he wanted to play for the Giants? WTF is the difference

Ahem...

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't disagree.

I fully understand that Tony is worth more to the Chiefs,

But the point remains that the Chiefs were offered fair market value.

Yes, it seems they were offered fair market value. He is just worth more to the Chiefs than market value so I'm glad he was not traded.

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booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2371450	Glazer: Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-trade Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-tradeby Jay Glazer Jay Glazer is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com on MSN and also appears every week on FOX NFL Sunday as the network's NFL Insider. Updated: October 14, 2008, 11:46 PM EST Tony Gonzalez figured there's no way I'd be writing a story today referring to him as Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez. But after the NFL's trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn't moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there's confusion. Tony Gonzalez: "Nobody is going to trade a second (-round pick) for a 32-year-old tight end." (Kevin C. Cox / Getty Images) "I'm shocked," he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. "It didn't make sense not to do this deal. It's winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, 'No, we're not going to trade you,' that would've been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that's not what happened. "Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that's what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair. "I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I'm very disappointed that he didn't go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I've been around this league a long time, it's a business. There's nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I'll get over it. I won't let it affect my play and my preparation." So where does he go from here? Gonzalez insists he'll do whatever it takes to make the Chiefs a better team. But first he says he will clear the air with many of his teammates. "I'm going to go in tomorrow and get up in front of the team, no coaches, just my teammates and let them know exactly where I was coming from," he said. "Like I said, they keep talking about the future here and trading me would've helped build for the future. I love Kansas City and will always be a Chief, always! But my road is coming to an end, and I didn't want it to end on a team that is rebuilding. "When I signed my deal a few years ago, it was to end my career here. But I also felt we had real potential, I didn't see us ending up with a rebuilding effort. But once they cleaned house, and when they traded Jared (Allen), it was clearly to rebuild. They have a bright future here. Some of the players they've drafted are going to be great. They are on the right road, but by the time they travel it, I'll probably be done. That's why I asked for this, and I was certainly led to believe they understood this and would help accommodate it." Gonzalez, after hanging up with Peterson last night, was pretty sure he'd soon pick up a new zip code. As the day progressed, several teams involved began increasing their offers. A few came up to a fourth while a pair came up to a third. The Chiefs, however, will remain steadfast with a second rounder. "If I was 28-years-old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation," said the league's all-time receiving leader for tight ends. "We've been talking about it for three weeks now, so we've had plenty of time to get it done. In the end, they had their agenda, and I don't know if they were serious about trading me or whether they were just trying to appease me. "But you know what? I can't cry about it. If anything, this has motivated me even more. I'm a Chief, will be happy to be a Chief and will bust my butt for the Chiefs. I was never not happy being a Chief. I just wanted the chance to spend my last couple of years winning a title, not rebuilding. But I'm here to help rebuild, I'll work with all our young guys and get after it like I always have."
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