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Old 12-29-2008, 02:58 PM  
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810 vs 610 on Thigy

So this afternoon I am driving around and I hear KK going off abou tThigy not being the man and such. Ok, commercial comes so I flip to 610. On 610 they are arguing that Thigy deserves a shot and pointing out the stats pre and post Thigy and such.

You almost wonder if they plan this shit? Anyhow, if KK is so staunch in his opposition of Thigy then I say we definitely need to give Thigy a shot.

So this seems it will be the ongoing argument over the next several weeks. Some people are going to be very pissed off come draft time when we make our first selection.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:34 PM   #46
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JaMarcus Russell playing better than the QB of our team and the Raiders having a better record should put all of his in perspective for the some who don't seem to see it.
I would agree, if Jamarcus was actually winning games for them. He's not. Its their running game. We have none. Thats not Tylers fault. Hell, we havent had a solid running game in 2 years. Raiders are winning because of their running game and their defense isnt 31st in the league.

I dont give a **** if Tyler is the starter or not next year. Thats not for me to decide, the coaches and Gm will take care of all of that, but saying the Raiders have a better record because of their QB is just stupid.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:34 PM   #47
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I don't even like JaMarcus Russell but when the team that we have all made fun of a million times dumbass fat QB is better than ours that puts perspective on this.
With the very slight difference that the Chiefs didn't piss away a NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK on theirs.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:38 PM   #48
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I would agree, if Jamarcus was actually winning games for them. He's not. Its their running game. We have none. Thats not Tylers fault. Hell, we havent had a solid running game in 2 years. Raiders are winning because of their running game and their defense isnt 31st in the league.

I dont give a **** if Tyler is the starter or not next year. Thats not for me to decide, the coaches and Gm will take care of all of that, but saying the Raiders have a better record because of their QB is just stupid.
The Raiders are playing the way Herm Edwards said he wanted the Chiefs to play....it's really bizarre to be honest.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:41 PM   #49
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Again...I would think the Chiefs will lean towards FA and the draft, to assure themselves that money man gets protected.

Granted the O-line was less than stellar this year, but I can't say for certain, that a rookie would automatically be injured like you imply.
I think anyone, rookie or otherwise, will get inured with this line if we go under center. Our entire right side cannot block for an under center offense.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:42 PM   #50
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The Raiders are playing the way Herm Edwards said he wanted the Chiefs to play....it's really bizarre to be honest.
They ended their season on a positive note no doubt. Thats what i wanted to see from the Chiefs, but we collapsed. I said i just want to see the team win a few games at the end of the season and for the team to be getting better. It didnt happen. We showed only flashes at time, but then after them flashes HUGE HUGE mistakes. Its like they take 1 step forward then go right back to where they were.

Anyways, We will see what happens.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:43 PM   #51
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I think anyone, rookie or otherwise, will get inured with this line if we go under center. Our entire right side cannot block for an under center offense.
I don't agree with that plenty of guys take hits and don't get hurt...the Chiefs just happen to have injury prone QB's...cmon Croyle and Huard?
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:44 PM   #52
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Will we win a superbowl with Thiggy pen?
You didn't win a Super Bowl with Trent green, Joe Montana, Warren Moon... Defences, kids. If you have a defence that can make stops and your offense puts up points on a consistent basis and your coaches aren't frickin morons, you win. Period.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:45 PM   #53
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With the very slight difference that the Chiefs didn't piss away a NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK on theirs.
This.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:48 PM   #55
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I don't agree with that plenty of guys take hits and don't get hurt...the Chiefs just happen to have injury prone QB's...cmon Croyle and Huard?
How many games do we have to play with getting one 1st down in a half before you realize our O-line cannot block for an under center style O?

How many times prior to the spread were we in 3rd and 8+ as opposed to 3rd and less than 5?

Our O-line simply cannot block for an under center offense. They needed the spread worse than Thigpen did, imo.
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You didn't win a Super Bowl with Trent green, Joe Montana, Warren Moon... Defences, kids. If you have a defence that can make stops and your offense puts up points on a consistent basis and your coaches aren't frickin morons, you win. Period.
That's way to simplistic it requires a mix, you aren't gonna win the bowl with a great defense and a game manager offense either, reference the Chiefs 90s for that.
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I seen a few times where it took Thigpen a few seconds to collect himself before he got up. He's much tougher then Broken Croyle or Damon Huard, but even the best QB's in the league can get hurt. Our oline just increases the chances big time.

I thing that pisses me off is that when we run the ball, last year and this year, is when the RB gets the ball, there is already 1-3 defenders that are already penetrated into our backfield. It happens so many times, i sit there and am like wow. WTF seriously. Then i see the other team on 3rd and 1 or 4 and one fall forward for 4 yards. lol

Its embarrassing.
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How many games do we have to play with getting one 1st down in a half before you realize our O-line cannot block for an under center style O?

How many times prior to the spread were we in 3rd and 8+ as opposed to 3rd and less than 5?

Our O-line simply cannot block for an under center offense. They needed the spread worse than Thigpen did, imo.
That means you think the Chiefs have some of the worst talent in the history of the game then because even 0-16 Detroit lined up normally.
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That's way to simplistic it requires a mix, you aren't gonna win the bowl with a great defense and a game manager offense either, reference the Chiefs 90s for that.
Tell that to Baltimore or Pittsburgh.
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