Chiefs All kidding aside, #3 pick? - Page 4

no love · 01-23-2009, 02:50 PM

I keep reading that this year's draft is lean on QB's, DE, and others.
Does this mean that there is there is fat at the other positions?
Hall of Fame type fat?
We are due to draft our next hall of famer.
Who is this draft class' future hall of famer? and can we get him with the 3rd pick?
If you say stafford, well, I say BS

RustShack · 01-23-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

Will Shields was found in the third round IIRC. You don't waste a top 5 pick on a guard.

When did I ever say draft an OG in the top 5 you douche bag. Also I said a player like Shields, not Shields...

CupidStunt · 01-23-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

What if he thinks Albert can the like Will Shields and he thinks whoever we draft could be like Willie Roaf? What if he thinks Albert is just some above average LT?

Then you can bump this up and serve me a plate of crow, but I'll take my chances (based on how Albert played at LT - that's the point).

RustShack · 01-23-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

You missed the point. Albert is going to be a damn good LT, and Pioli will see that.

Andre Smith is NOT better than Albert.

But Smith is better than Monroe... Monroe must be better than Albert since Albert couldn't start at LT over him... but Albert is better than Smith...

**The Franchise** · 01-23-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

When did I ever say draft an OG in the top 5 you douche bag. Also I said a player like Shields, not Shields...

You would technically be wasting the pick. You already have a LT......go fill another hole. You don't draft a replacement for your young/good LT because you think the LT that is available could be better than him.

bowener · 01-23-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

You know we already have a possession WR in Bowe right?

Two possession WR's seems to work for the Cardinals

Arent ocho-cinco and TJ Housh considered possession guys too?

RustShack · 01-23-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

You would technically be wasting the pick. You already have a LT......go fill another hole. You don't draft a replacement for your young/good LT because you think the LT that is available could be better than him.

I don't think we should draft a LT, I think we should draft Stafford or Sanchez. MAYBE Curry but I would much rather have the QB.

CupidStunt · 01-23-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

But Smith is better than Monroe... Monroe must be better than Albert since Albert couldn't start at LT over him... but Albert is better than Smith...

Didn't, not couldn't.

I'll wager right now that every OT that gets drafted in the first round this year and starts 15+ games as a rookie gives up more sacks than Albert.

BigChiefFan · 01-23-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

You missed the point. Albert is going to be a damn good LT, and Pioli will see that.

Andre Smith is NOT better than Albert.

I understand that point completely, were we disagree, is that you are assuming our line needs no help, where as, I see, that ONLY, ALBERT has a long-term future with the team. The rest could use major upgrades and I don't believe Waters will be here for more than a couple of years. I see one spot filled and four that need to be upgraded.

El Jefe · 01-23-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

When did I ever say draft an OG in the top 5 you douche bag. Also I said a player like Shields, not Shields...

Wow, easy there youngster, I made a comment on something you posted. I never accused you of saying that, my point was if you draft another OT, then slide Albert to Guard, it is not a smart move with the way he is playing. It would be the equivolent of drafting a guard in the 5th spot, and paying him LT money, and then dishing even more money out for his replacement LT. Not a smart move when Albert is doing a very good job.

El Jefe · 01-23-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

You would technically be wasting the pick. You already have a LT......go fill another hole. You don't draft a replacement for your young/good LT because you think the LT that is available could be better than him.

Yep, I said the same thing, but apparently we don't know what we are talking about.

CupidStunt · 01-23-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I understand that point completely, were we disagree, is that you are assuming our line needs no help, where as, I see, that ONLY, ALBERT has a long-term future with the team. The rest could use major upgrades and I don't believe Waters will be here for more than a couple of years. I see one spot filled and four that need to be upgraded.

I don't disagree with that at all. I think we need upgrades at C, RG and RT, along with a future prospect for LG -- but none of that has any relevance to the No. 3 pick because ONLY a LT is appropriate there, and we have a damn good (potentially elite) one of those.

El Jefe · 01-23-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

Two possession WR's seems to work for the Cardinals

Arent ocho-cinco and TJ Housh considered possession guys too?

I think CJ and TJ are pretty deceant deep threats. Housh would be more of a possesion reciever than Chad though.

El Jefe · 01-23-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

I don't disagree with that at all. I think we need upgrades at C, RG and RT, along with a future prospect for LG -- but none of that has any relevance to the No. 3 pick because ONLY a LT is appropriate there, and we have a damn good (potentially elite) one of those.

Yep. I understand where you're coming from BigChiefFan, but this post really sums it up IMO. I think we can address our other O-Line issues outside of the first round easily. We could get Mack, Luigs, or one of the other good centers in the 2nd round. I think we might even possibly be able to snatch Alex boone in the 4th if we get really lucky, he is in the 3rd-4th round range right now.

BigChiefFan · 01-23-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

Yep. I understand where you're coming from BigChiefFan, but this post really sums it up IMO. I think we can address our other O-Line issues outside of the first round easily. We could get Mack, Luigs, or one of the other good centers in the 2nd round. I think we might even possibly be able to snatch Alex boone in the 4th if we get really lucky, he is in the 3rd-4th round range right now.

Good post. We obviously can and will look in the later rounds for upgrades to our line, I just think the LTs of this draft are top 10 picks in most drafts, so I prefer VALUE out of the draft. I'm not advocating going after a LT, just that there are some damn good players there, that could improve our o-line and I wouldn't fault the Chiefs for going down that road is all.

BTW, I think Eugene Monroe is going to kick ass and take names in the NFL.

Pioli Zombie · 01-23-2009, 04:25 PM

I agree. Thats the Patriot way. Pioli knows the players and if he can get as many picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds as possible he'll do it. Or i could see him trade the 3rd overall pick for someone elses #2,#3,#4 and a #1 next year. And he'll get 4 Pro Bowlers out of it.

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no love indifference Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $9044900	All kidding aside, #3 pick? I keep reading that this year's draft is lean on QB's, DE, and others. Does this mean that there is there is fat at the other positions? Hall of Fame type fat? We are due to draft our next hall of famer. Who is this draft class' future hall of famer? and can we get him with the 3rd pick? If you say stafford, well, I say BS
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	I agree. Thats the Patriot way. Pioli knows the players and if he can get as many picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds as possible he'll do it. Or i could see him trade the 3rd overall pick for someone elses #2,#3,#4 and a #1 next year. And he'll get 4 Pro Bowlers out of it.
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