Chiefs Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates - Page 4

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 05:35 AM

Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan...

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html

Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall.

“There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.”

Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor.

The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo.

While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs.

“The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are.

“I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.”

Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out.

The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line.

With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down?

Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen.

“I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy.

“He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.”

Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-11-2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

CoMo makes my brain hurt when he posts.

It's a toss up between him, SHTSPRAYER, and FAIL/ASS for me.

CrazyHorse · 02-11-2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Did the possibility ever cross your cranium that when evaluating a college QB headed in to the Draft, we just might be placing a higher premium on form, mechanics, and ability as opposed to number of starts and W/L record? A million starts as a college player does not mean you will do better in the pros. In the pros, everyone can bring it. That's why they're there.

Yep.

CrazyHorse · 02-11-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

.....Not this shit again...

OLB's are not worth top 5 picks period.

For arguements sake, I would take DT over David Carr any day. I dont care what pick it was.

Messier · 02-11-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Jones

If you look closely at the track record in New England, they never really went after big money risky prospects.

Randy Moss was kind of a risk.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

You're love for Sanchez makes this whole board dumber and dumber.

You're ****ing nuts if you think he's worth the 3rd overall pick

It's still way less nuts than thinking you can trade out of the 3rd pick like it's nothing or wanting to draft a ****ing OLB there.

Basileus777 · 02-11-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

For arguements sake, I would take DT over David Carr any day. I dont care what pick it was.

DT was a rushbacker/DE, not a coverage OLB like Curry. Completely different positions.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777

DT was a rushbacker/DE, not a coverage OLB like Curry. Completely different positions.

See people don't seem to understand the severe difference in a guy who rushes the passer and a guy who doesn't.

Aaron Curry is never going to register 15 sacks in a season, if he could do that then he'd be a top 5 pick as a OLB in my book.

ChiefsCountry · 02-11-2009, 10:11 AM

Remember that gem of an article that Teicher wrote during the season in which he would take a DE over Peyton Manning.

Ralphy Boy · 02-11-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Thats why we need to trade down. This is not a strong top 10 class. Prob the weakest in quite some time.

I'd rather have Stafford than Sanchez if we go the QB route. But to be honest I'm not to thrilled about the QB class this season as well. But if we MUST get a QB this season then let if be Stafford, if DET takes him at #1, then say NO to Sanchez. Risking a #3 pick on someone who barely has college playing experience and is leaving college not because he's ready, but more so because of his stock in a weak QB class. His college coach is even saying that he's not ready. That's probably a better source of info than what most scouts can give.

Trade down, acquire more picks, theres less risk, and we have a lot of holes to fill. Lots of cap space to sign players etc. If this was a draft class that had no doubt hands down top3 talent, then I'd go after him, but this season I'm not seeing it, this is the weakest class of top talent in a while.

The point is that it IS A VERY WEAK DRAFT and there isn't anyone worth trading up to get. You can only trade down when there is a player worth more to another team than to yours. You only trade into the top 5 if you have a can't miss prospect at a position of need.

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 10:13 AM

If you're going to argue for a player, argue for Malcolm Jenkins that's alot more logical than ****in Aaron Curry.

CrazyHorse · 02-11-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777

DT was a rushbacker/DE, not a coverage OLB like Curry. Completely different positions.

Coverage OLB? From what I understand, he can do it all. Cover, rush, play run. In any event, let's not use DT as an example. I would take a probowl player over a bust, reguardless what pick it is. Whether it be LB, DT, DE, LT,QB. I dont get bogged down by what pick it is. I just want a good/great player. I dont want to pick a QB just because it's the 3rd pick. That is a very limited way of thinking.

If we were talking about a KR, then okay. But at LB, if he's a playmaker then youo can certainly pick him at #3.

CoMoChief · 02-11-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's still way less nuts than thinking you can trade out of the 3rd pick like it's nothing or wanting to draft a ****ing OLB there.

I never said anything about drafting Curry there. I think thats too high. If we are going to draft him it should be around 7-10 range. And its not impossible to trade out of that position like you think it is.

blueballs · 02-11-2009, 10:16 AM

sooooooooo
what about that second rounder

Mecca · 02-11-2009, 10:17 AM

Even if he became the best OLB in the game as a traditional 4-3 OLB he isn't really all that valuable...

Brock · 02-11-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I never said anything about drafting Curry there. I think thats too high. If we are going to draft him it should be around 7-10 range. And its not impossible to trade out of that position like you think it is.

If it as weak a draft as you claim it is, it will be very very difficult to trade out of a high position.

02-11-2009, 05:35 AM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Teicher:Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates Who knew Mike Mayock was a true fan... http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1028585.html Chiefs should have a short list of top draft pick candidates By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Hundreds of players are available in this year’s NFL draft, but the Chiefs will have to investigate only a fraction of them when it comes to their first pick. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said only about 10 players are worthy of the Chiefs’ consideration with their top pick, which is third overall. “There’s probably a total of 10 guys they’ll have to look at and evaluate and then say, ‘OK, here’s our list one, two and three,’ ” Mayock said. “They know they’re getting one of those guys.” Mayock’s list is heavy on offensive players, which is unfortunate for a team that needs plenty of help on its defensive front seven. It includes quarterbacks Matt Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of Southern California, wide receivers Michael Crabtree of Texas Tech and Jeremy Maclin of Missouri, running backs Knowshon Moreno of Georgia and Chris Wells of Ohio State and offensive tackles Eugene Monroe of Virginia and Jason Smith of Baylor. The only defensive players are Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. While the Chiefs are closer to being competitive on offense than defense, they have few positions where they couldn’t use some help. Perhaps the only one is cornerback, where rookies Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers moved into the lineup last season and looked like part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Picking third, their highest position since taking Neil Smith with the second pick in 1988, would allow the Chiefs a chance at a long-elusive franchise quarterback. Stafford will likely be selected by Detroit with the first pick, but Sanchez could well be available to the Chiefs. “The potential franchise quarterback is the most important position on your team,” Mayock said. “If I’m building a franchise, the first thing I’m going to do is (investigate) the quarterback position. This year, the guys you better evaluate are Stafford and Sanchez. I’m not trying to tell you they should take them at (No.) 3. I’m saying they had better understand what they are. “I wish Sanchez went back (to USC) for another year. He needed another year. He’s a kid that only started 16 games, but he’s got the ability and the toughness and the arm strength and can learn the pro game and be a starter.” Moreno and Wells are the best of the running backs, and the Chiefs could be in the market for a featured back if they dispose of Larry Johnson, who is unhappy in Kansas City and wants out. The Chiefs drafted Branden Albert in the first round last year, and he looks like their left tackle for several seasons. That’s why the Chiefs probably wouldn’t seriously consider Monroe or Smith, but it’s not impossible because they could use an upgrade on the right side of their line. With so many other needs, wide receiver probably won’t be a priority. But faced with the opportunity of grabbing a playmaker like Crabtree or Maclin, could the Chiefs turn it down? Of all the players on Mayock’s list, Curry might make the most sense for the Chiefs. They didn’t get any reliable play from their linebackers last season and lacked a playmaker after trading Jared Allen. “I’m a big believer that Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the entire draft,” Mayock said. “I hate to say that, but when you’re sitting at (No.) 3, the thing you can’t afford to do is make a mistake. Worst-case scenario: He’s got to be a good football player. Aaron Curry is that kind of guy. “He played (strong side) linebacker in college. He dominated the tight end. But I could very easily see him converting to a 3-4 outside linebacker because he can rush the passer well, he drops in coverage well. He’s a fifth-year kid. He’s mature. I just think he’s the safest guy out there.” Boy that's how I'd wanna make my picks based on the fear of a bust so I reach for a devalued position brilliant!
Posts: 115,380

02-11-2009, 10:11 AM	#53
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1591248	Remember that gem of an article that Teicher wrote during the season in which he would take a DE over Peyton Manning.
Posts: 52,140

02-11-2009, 10:13 AM	#55
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	If you're going to argue for a player, argue for Malcolm Jenkins that's alot more logical than ****in Aaron Curry.
Posts: 115,380

02-11-2009, 10:16 AM	#58
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	sooooooooo what about that second rounder
Posts: 14,233

02-11-2009, 10:17 AM	#59
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Even if he became the best OLB in the game as a traditional 4-3 OLB he isn't really all that valuable...
Posts: 115,380