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'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-11-2009, 06:25 PM

This ****ing shit is wearing me out. All this pro-Curry, pro-6th round QB bullshit needs to be put down.

milkman · 02-14-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Just a couple games, and some highlights. Small sample for sure, but I didn't see anything that impressed me that much.

But as you know, I am sure no expert on great play, having spent most of my viewing hours watching the Chiefs.

Do you think he is cool under pressure? To me that is the key, more than measurables.

I've seen all of his games.

To me, it's his poise, composure and leadership that makes him the prospect I think he is.

I've seen about 6 or 7 Georgia games, and I'm in the minority here, but I like Sanchez more than Stafford, specifically because of those intangibles.

But I'd take either at 3.

Agent V · 02-14-2009, 10:17 AM

Why do I keep hearing the, "First round quarterback isn't a sure thing. We shouldn't risk it" arguement? That's about equal to George Lucas saying, "You know, this Star Wars thing might fail. I probably shouldn't try it."

CoMoChief · 02-14-2009, 01:23 PM

FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-14-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.

Might want to crack open your dictionary and revisit the definition of the word "fact."

milkman · 02-14-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.

When did your dumbass opinion become "fact"?

ncCHIEFfan · 02-14-2009, 02:50 PM

Anyone who thinks the Chiefs are beyond drafting the best player available has not been watching them play and there is nothing wrong with drating Curry or whom ever is Stafford is gone

**HemiEd** · 02-14-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I've seen all of his games.

To me, it's his poise, composure and leadership that makes him the prospect I think he is.

I've seen about 6 or 7 Georgia games, and I'm in the minority here, but I like Sanchez more than Stafford, specifically because of those intangibles.

But I'd take either at 3.

I respect your opinion on this, and it would make me feel better if they do pick him. You are the guy that was sold on Albert, and that sure turned out well.

Chiefnj2 · 02-14-2009, 04:03 PM

I'd like to know why Stafford was inconsistent with his accuracy. I know he throws off his back foot sometimes, but I have no idea if that is why he at times way overthrew WRs. If it is a coaching/mechanics issue I think Stafford would be the better QB. If it is mental then Sanchez might be the better long term prospect.

Questions with Sanchez - experience, hasn't had to come from behind and is surrounded by lots of talent, seems to get happy feet a little, I think he holds the ball a little low once he starts dancing around, doesn't have a great arm but has better touch than Stafford.

Questions about Stafford - great arm strength but he needs to put better touch on short passes (kind of like Croyle), some accuracy and decision making questions but it's hard to determine if it was him or inexperienced offensive players around him, might not be as good of a leader as Sanchez.

Mecca · 02-14-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'd like to know why Stafford was inconsistent with his accuracy. I know he throws off his back foot sometimes, but I have no idea if that is why he at times way overthrew WRs. If it is a coaching/mechanics issue I think Stafford would be the better QB. If it is mental then Sanchez might be the better long term prospect.

Questions with Sanchez - experience, hasn't had to come from behind and is surrounded by lots of talent, seems to get happy feet a little, I think he holds the ball a little low once he starts dancing around, doesn't have a great arm but has better touch than Stafford.

Questions about Stafford - great arm strength but he needs to put better touch on short passes (kind of like Croyle), some accuracy and decision making questions but it's hard to determine if it was him or inexperienced offensive players around him, might not be as good of a leader as Sanchez.

I'd like to know why some people would like to make Aaron Curry the highest paid LB in the NFL..

You could literally go sign Karlos Dansby for less money than Curry will get if he's picked 3rd.

Saccopoo · 02-15-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd like to know why some people would like to make Aaron Curry the highest paid LB in the NFL..

You could literally go sign Karlos Dansby for less money than Curry will get if he's picked 3rd.

Now that is the most relevant argument I've seen yet.

melbar · 02-15-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Then you take Malcolm Jenkins....

If they take Orakpo I will lose my mind.

No doubt there.

I like Jenkins. I just like Curry better. Just my oppinion, but we have 2 up and coming young corners and even average CB's can look a lot better with a strong front 7. I know that Curry didnt do a lot of pass rushing and we'll have to get more push up front, but we cant solve all of our problems in one pick. Here's why I like Curry IF we dont go QB.

We dont tackle well. Curry is an excellent tackler.
We dont have attitude on D. Curry is a big hitter.
We dont stop the run. Curry plays the gaps well and is stout against the run.
He also had `15 tackles behind the line last year.
We dont have playmakers. He had 3 ints for TD's last year. There's just an
intangeable there to be around the ball and do
something with it.
We are old and get injured a lot at LB. Curry hasnt missed any time in 4 years at college.

Now dont get me wrong on this next statement but, the big dig has been that Curry doesnt have the sack numbers. I would submit this:
Ray Lewis is probably the Best LB in the league and is the heart of a great Defense. Ray hasnt had more than 3.5 sacks since he had 4 in '97.

I'm not saying he's Ray, I'm just saying that you dont have to be the guy getting sacks to have a huge impact on a D. Ray wouldnt be Ray if guys werent putting pressure on the QB up front either, but there are some of the same qualities and i think poor LB play has been the major problem with our D.
Anyway, that is my thought process. Fire away.

Chiefnj2 · 02-15-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd like to know why some people would like to make Aaron Curry the highest paid LB in the NFL..

You could literally go sign Karlos Dansby for less money than Curry will get if he's picked 3rd.

You can use that foolhardy argument for any top draft pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-15-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You can use that foolhardy argument for any top draft pick.

Why don't you go check some vet QB contracts.

Mecca · 02-15-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You can use that foolhardy argument for any top draft pick.

Oh really, tell me what all pro potential QB you're gonna sign, teams don't let top level QB's leave...LB's get into FA all the time.

Chiefnj2 · 02-16-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why don't you go check some vet QB contracts.

Ryan at the #3 pick last year got 34.75 guaranteed. Manning's last contract had a guarantee of 34.5 and Roethlisberger's latest was 36 guaranteed. Brady's last contract had lower guaranteed/bonus money but higher yearly base amounts. It's reasonable to think that if a QB is taken #1 this year that the kid will make more than almost all vet QB's.

So yes, the argument why are you going to make Curry the highest paid LB in the NFL applies to other positions as well.

02-11-2009, 06:25 PM
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02-14-2009, 10:17 AM	#47
Agent V Bring me Geno. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Why do I keep hearing the, "First round quarterback isn't a sure thing. We shouldn't risk it" arguement? That's about equal to George Lucas saying, "You know, this Star Wars thing might fail. I probably shouldn't try it."
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick. FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick. FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.
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02-14-2009, 04:03 PM	#53
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	I'd like to know why Stafford was inconsistent with his accuracy. I know he throws off his back foot sometimes, but I have no idea if that is why he at times way overthrew WRs. If it is a coaching/mechanics issue I think Stafford would be the better QB. If it is mental then Sanchez might be the better long term prospect. Questions with Sanchez - experience, hasn't had to come from behind and is surrounded by lots of talent, seems to get happy feet a little, I think he holds the ball a little low once he starts dancing around, doesn't have a great arm but has better touch than Stafford. Questions about Stafford - great arm strength but he needs to put better touch on short passes (kind of like Croyle), some accuracy and decision making questions but it's hard to determine if it was him or inexperienced offensive players around him, might not be as good of a leader as Sanchez. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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