Chiefs Sanchez will throw at combine. - Page 4

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-20-2009, 08:33 AM

Okay, I have been critical of this kid from the start. I really want a franchise QB, but I don't want the Chiefs to reach. There are a lot of QB's that go high under the theory that 'this may be our 'best' chance to get a franchise QB'.

But, with ALL things, I try to be fair minded. I love the fact that this kid is willing to do the full workout at the combine. That shows confidence. That shows courage.

Now, it may also show a lack of level headed decision making. And, at the QB position, you want a guy that doesn't force things. But, I must admit, that I like this move.

ChiefRon · 02-20-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Good grief. Now he's arrogant?

After reading stories about Sanchez coming back from injuries and hard hits, the conclusion that is reached is that...........he might be arrogant and a head case.

Ok.

Didn't you expect that from him?

**DeezNutz** · 02-20-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Didn't you expect that from him?

Given how much time was being spent on earlier "analysis," I have to admit that I was hoping for a more logical final product.

I will lower my expectations of the Planet populace accordingly.

Rigodan · 02-20-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Didn't he miss three weeks of practice?

Frankly, the more I learn about the guy... I am beginning to think he is a head case.
I initially liked the idea that he was going to throw at the combine.

Now, I think he may be a little too arrogant.

I am sure you know about his arrest, I think in his redshirt Sophomore year because the girl said no and he wasn't hearing it.

Now, he has one good year in college and Pete Carroll tells him he should stay in school and he's not hearing it.

Just have to wonder if he thinks he knows better than everyone else, and has this self titled attitude.

Don't need that on this team.
I was really hoping to find out more about him and get sold on him.... nothing so far.

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Takes his own success and that of the team very seriously. ... Extremely competitive. ... Team captain. ... Undefeated in bowl games.

Ya there's no place for a guy like that on this team.

You don't ****ing know Mark Sanchez. You deem him arrogant and unworthy of playing for the Chiefs because he shows confidence in himself. You got to be kidding me.

**penguinz** · 02-20-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Didn't he miss three weeks of practice?

Frankly, the more I learn about the guy... I am beginning to think he is a head case.

I initially liked the idea that he was going to throw at the combine.

Now, I think he may be a little too arrogant.

I am sure you know about his arrest, I think in his redshirt Sophomore year because the girl said no and he wasn't hearing it.

Now, he has one good year in college and Pete Carroll tells him he should stay in school and he's not hearing it.

Just have to wonder if he thinks he knows better than everyone else, and has this self titled attitude.

Don't need that on this team.

I was really hoping to find out more about him and get sold on him.... nothing so far.

How clueless are you?

Chiefnj2 · 02-20-2009, 11:46 AM

It's going to be a rough weekend for Sanchez. He's going to measure in shorter than his listed 6'3". He better hope he doesn't have to throw before or after Freeman because his arm will look like a wet noodle unless he goes into his extra wide "I'm pooping in the woods" stance he needs to get the ball downfield with any velocity. He'll also be all messed up having to throw to WR's that can actually run and catch. All I've been reading is that USC has no talent on offense. Now he's going to be throwing to real prospects for once in his life. He'll probably throw everything behind them since he is used to throwing the ball to clumsy oafs who run 4.8 40s and catch with their forearms.

Rigodan · 02-20-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It's going to be a rough weekend for Sanchez. He's going to measure in shorter than his listed 6'3". He better hope he doesn't have to throw before or after Freeman because his arm will look like a wet noodle unless he goes into his extra wide "I'm pooping in the woods" stance he needs to get the ball downfield with any velocity. He'll also be all messed up having to throw to WR's that can actually run and catch. All I've been reading is that USC has no talent on offense. Now he's going to be throwing to real prospects for once in his life. He'll probably throw everything behind them since he is used to throwing the ball to clumsy oafs who run 4.8 40s and catch with their forearms.

you're a dumbass.

USC has talent on offense, i think everyone will agree on this. It's just not the all-world talent that some people believe they have. Mecca's just saying that Sanchez hasn't had the luxury of getting by on other people coat tails. Sanchez is who he is because of his own talent and hard work, not the other people around him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-20-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan

you're a dumbass.

You catch on quickly.

RINGLEADER · 02-20-2009, 12:01 PM

I'd guess the Chiefs' chances of selecting Sanchez with the #3 pick are about 2%.

Chiefnj2 · 02-20-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan

you're a dumbass.

USC has talent on offense, i think everyone will agree on this. It's just not the all-world talent that some people believe they have. Mecca's just saying that Sanchez hasn't had the luxury of getting by on other people coat tails. Sanchez is who he is because of his own talent and hard work, not the other people around him.

I hope he can work under center behind 1st and 2nd round centers. I'm sure he's used to his center stepping on his feet and missing blocking assignments half the time.

**dirk digler** · 02-20-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I'd guess the Chiefs' chances of selecting Sanchez with the #3 pick are about 2%.

Why?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Reality or not, that is the perception, even among scouts. Did you catch the analysis of Sanchez from nfl.com?

Analysis
Positives: Ascending talent whose intangibles for the position are just as impressive as his physical tools. ... Cerebral. ... Reads defenses well and rarely throws into coverage. ... Goes through his progression quickly and takes what the defense gives him. ... Recognizes the blitz very well for a player of his experience and often targets the defenses' weak link when being blitzed. ... Good setup and a smooth, over-the-top delivery. ... Legitimate NFL arm strength. ... Capable of making every NFL throw, including the deep ball. ... Rather than relying on pure arm strength, Sanchez combines good velocity with rare anticipation, especially for a player of his limited experience. ... Consistently releases his passes before his receivers have even made their breaks, giving the defense little time to react. ... Distributes the ball all over the field. ... Good short-, medium-, and long-range accuracy. ... Consistently places his passes where only his receiver can get it and throws a very catchable ball. ... When healthy, showed very surprising mobility for his size. ... Can evade the pass rush and will scramble if the defense gives free yards. ... Rare accuracy on the rollout. ... Squares his shoulders and can fire the ball with consistency and accuracy. ... Team captain. ... Blue-collar work ethic.

Negatives: Only one season as the starter and leaves USC with just 16 career starts. ... Career record of 4-2 outside of the state of California. ... Undeniable tools, but isn't yet a finished product. ... Runs a bit hot and cold and has a tendency to score touchdowns in bunches. ... Characterized by those close to the program as a very cerebral player who makes the right read, but many of his touchdown passes went to receivers with five or more yards of separation between the next closest defender, opening up some questions if USC's dominant athletes and the team's aggressive play-calling helped him look even better. ... Suffered a dislocated left knee cap prior to the season opener and his mobility was limited.

Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.

Friday Wood achieved.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I like how that scouting report basically backs up what a ton of us have said about Sanchez being better coached and more technically sound, and guys were exploding saying we weren't scouts and didn't know shit.

We rule!

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

That's the main reason I actually prefer Sanchez, even though I'm in the minority.

Seems like the first thing they mention about him are the intangibles, quick decisions, intelligence, passion, right before they mention the limited amount of starts, only playing from behind in one game, and the wrong decision to come out early. Then they usually say, "If this guy stayed in school, he would probably be the #1 overall pick next year".

Well, shit, draft the guy at #3 and let him sit and learn. Is he going to lose talent by learning in the NFL? Experience means a lot, but geez, won't experience learning to adjust how the NFL plays be more valuable?

Si Senor'!!!

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Didn't he miss three weeks of practice?

Frankly, the more I learn about the guy... I am beginning to think he is a head case.

I initially liked the idea that he was going to throw at the combine.

Now, I think he may be a little too arrogant.

I am sure you know about his arrest, I think in his redshirt Sophomore year because the girl said no and he wasn't hearing it.

Now, he has one good year in college and Pete Carroll tells him he should stay in school and he's not hearing it.

Just have to wonder if he thinks he knows better than everyone else, and has this self titled attitude.

Don't need that on this team.

I was really hoping to find out more about him and get sold on him.... nothing so far.

You need start taking your medication again; you're not well. At all.
I hadn't handed out a football topic Neg Rep in a LONG time. You broke the streak.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You catch on quickly.

If we ever meet in person, please remind me that I owe you several drinks...

**MahiMike** · 02-20-2009, 12:06 PM

No need to worry about Sanchez. According to another CP thread today, the Lions will pass on a QB, so now we're set to get Stafford.

It's a...

DONE DEAL!

ChiefRon · 02-20-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

No need to worry about Sanchez. According to another CP thread today, the Lions will pass on a QB,

That's a problem I would love to have, choosing between 2 potential franchise QBs...

I'm sure someone's going to follow this up by suggesting "Hey with both on the board, maybe we could trade down..."

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

That's a problem I would love to have, choosing between 2 potential franchise QBs...

I'm sure someone's going to follow this up by suggesting "Hey with both on the board, maybe we could trade down..."

Predictable lot, ain't they?

HC_Chief · 02-20-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Predictable lot, ain't they?

How about this: trade our #3 overall down to Philly for one of their #1s and Donavan McNabb.

Or, trade down for NE's #1 + Cassel!

IT CAN WORK!

02-20-2009, 08:33 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Sanchez will throw at combine. Okay, I have been critical of this kid from the start. I really want a franchise QB, but I don't want the Chiefs to reach. There are a lot of QB's that go high under the theory that 'this may be our 'best' chance to get a franchise QB'. But, with ALL things, I try to be fair minded. I love the fact that this kid is willing to do the full workout at the combine. That shows confidence. That shows courage. Now, it may also show a lack of level headed decision making. And, at the QB position, you want a guy that doesn't force things. But, I must admit, that I like this move.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	It's going to be a rough weekend for Sanchez. He's going to measure in shorter than his listed 6'3". He better hope he doesn't have to throw before or after Freeman because his arm will look like a wet noodle unless he goes into his extra wide "I'm pooping in the woods" stance he needs to get the ball downfield with any velocity. He'll also be all messed up having to throw to WR's that can actually run and catch. All I've been reading is that USC has no talent on offense. Now he's going to be throwing to real prospects for once in his life. He'll probably throw everything behind them since he is used to throwing the ball to clumsy oafs who run 4.8 40s and catch with their forearms. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8070503	I'd guess the Chiefs' chances of selecting Sanchez with the #3 pick are about 2%.
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02-20-2009, 12:06 PM	#57
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	No need to worry about Sanchez. According to another CP thread today, the Lions will pass on a QB, so now we're set to get Stafford. It's a... DONE DEAL!
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