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booger · 03-01-2009, 03:36 PM

Bills | Interested in acquiring Waters
Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800

Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for Kansas City Chiefs OG Brian Waters, according to source.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

kchero · 03-01-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by journeyscarab

trade them waters and LJ for 1st rd and Jason Peters

With all of LJ's issues there is no way this would happen. LJ and waters combined may = their 1st round pick and thats a big maybe, but not for Jason Peters as well. Why would they take Waters just to get rid Peters...

seaofred · 03-01-2009, 04:18 PM

Why would they want LJ? Don't they have Lynch and the other guy?

el borracho · 03-01-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why, in the name of ****, would you want to move Branden Albert, who is going to be a Pro Bowl left tackle, to a less important position on the line where he goes from being underpaid to overpaid as a virtue of the move, and causes you to dump millions more on a replacement whose upside is little more than what Albert has already proven he can do?

I'm not insisting on it nor saying it will happen but it is a possibility that would a) give us 2/5 of a kick-ass Oline and b) take advantage of the value at the top of the draft. Oline is definitely a need, so it's not like I am insane to suggest we add another piece and adding a top 3 prospect is a great way to replace a 32 year old player on the line.

By the way, there is no guarantee that Albert is "going to be" a Pro Bowl left tackle (although he looked great last year) and, really, I don't care so very much about overpaid/underpaid since it isn't my money as long as the Chiefs are able to field a competetive team (and there doesn't seem to be any money constraints at the moment).

el borracho · 03-01-2009, 04:22 PM

heh. Pioli looks more like The King of Queens than a mobster in that photo.

Skyy God · 03-01-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike

Actually that would be himself as he has no agent.

Sarcasm meter broke much?

**DeezNutz** · 03-01-2009, 04:23 PM

It would make more sense to draft a RT #3 than to move Albert to guard.

But that doesn't mean that either would be good decisions.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-01-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

I'm not insisting on it nor saying it will happen but it is a possibility that would a) give us 2/5 of a kick-ass Oline and b) take advantage of the value at the top of the draft. Oline is definitely a need, so it's not like I am insane to suggest we add another piece and adding a top 3 prospect is a great way to replace a 32 year old player on the line.

By the way, there is no guarantee that Albert is "going to be" a Pro Bowl left tackle (although he looked great last year) and, really, I don't care so very much about overpaid/underpaid since it isn't my money as long as the Chiefs are able to field a competetive team (and there doesn't seem to be any money constraints at the moment).

You should care about the cap because if we have two first round contracts tied up into the two OL positions left of center it means we have less to spend on the RDE, QB, #1 WR, RB, DTs and the other guys who are the prime movers for the team.

You can find a replacement for Brian Waters in the 4th round.

Would you rather roll the dice with BJ Raji, who plays the most important position on the D, and a 4th round guard, or Eugene Monroe and a 3rd or 4th round NT?

This is why people need to take positional value into account at the top of the draft.

booger · 03-01-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal

http://buf.scout.com/2/843380.html

Bills interested in Chiefs guard

Brian Waters (Getty Images)
By Pat Moran
Scout.com writer
Posted Mar 1, 2009

BFR's Pat Moran has the lowdown on a possible trade looming. The Bills might not be finished upgrading their offensive line. Disgruntled guard Brian Waters could be Buffalo-bound. Read this Buffalo Football Report exclusive inside...

The Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for disgruntled Kansas City Chiefs guard Brian Waters, according to a trusted source.

The Bills, in the market for a new left guard after releasing Derrick Dockery on Thursday, could be looking to land the four-time Pro Bowler for a deal similar to the Marcus Stroud trade last year, when they gave up third and fifth round draft picks.

Waters has become disenchanted with the additions to the Chiefs organization. According to Kansas City Star writer Jason Whitlock, Waters asked for his release after new general manager Scott Pioli said he had no interest in meeting him. Whitlock said that Waters was “offended and shocked.”

Also according to the report, several Arizona Cardinals, including Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald, gave new head coach Todd Haley less than glowing reviews. Haley was called “condescending and ignored by veterans.”

While Waters is 32 years of age and the Chiefs offensive line struggled mightily, there is little doubt about his ability to perform. He would be an instant upgrade over Dockery and could give Buffalo one of the finer left sides of the offensive line in the NFL alongside Jason Peters.

The Bills would likely have to give Waters a new deal. He’s in the fourth year of a six year, $26.5 million deal and has made no bones about declaring himself underpaid.

While an interest in a Waters trade hasn’t been made public, a source inside the organization tells me the Bills are “very much interested in him.”

Pioli refused to honor his request to be released and weren’t open to trading him. But that could change after the Chiefs lost a second-round pick in acquiring Matt Cassel from the New England Patriots. By trading the displeased Waters, the club could recoup draft picks as well as not have their new franchise quarterback hampered with an offensive line that includes an exceedingly unhappy left guard.

Stay tuned right here for more details as they come available.

somebody should tell this scout.com guy that he should charge this stuff as premium. Nick Athan rips people off with far worse stuff than this.

mikey23545 · 03-01-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike

Actually that would be himself as he has no agent.

Adjust sarcasm meter much?

Micjones · 03-01-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Absolutely no chance a guy that is 6'2", 220 lbs who just ran a 4.3 flat is going any later than the first round.

His stock will skyrocket.

You could be right.

I think there could be a run on WR's at the end of the First Round though. And some of DHB's counterparts were much more decorated in College.

We'll see...
He might not be there, but having that #2 gives us a great shot to get some of the First Round overflow that's sure to be there.

rtmike · 03-01-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545

Adjust sarcasm meter much?

Nothin' gets by you folks. Next time I'll know when you place ... at the end of a post you're being sarcastic.

Forgive me for having a dead battery in my secret decoder ring...

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Seriously? You'd take a 5th Round draft pick for your best offensive lineman who just went to a Pro Bowl and probably has at least 3 more years of productive football left in him?

Absolutely.

He's 32.

He's a malcontent.

Get what you can, while you can.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

We have a decent QB coming in now, so why not send our best reciever and our best O linemen to another team? Yeah, that makes sense.

No worries.

We aren't trading Branden Albert.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-01-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Well, that would allow us to slide Albert to LG and draft one of the top LTs in this draft.

So, we're basically where the Chiefs were last year.

Nice left side, no right side.

And $60+ million dollars wrapped up in two left tackles.

SBK · 03-01-2009, 04:37 PM

This is a lot of discussion based upon the writings of an Assclown from Buffalo.

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