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Old 04-27-2009, 10:25 AM  
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If there was any doubt Belichik was running the show all along in New England

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:10 PM   #46
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Scott Jewoli"

What do you mean by that exactly?
Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even Sanches said there was a lot of discussion about him going #3. Even if the Chiefs only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again witha mid to late 1st rounder. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.

I don't even want to get into the way the picks were used on the 2nd day.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:13 PM   #47
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Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even if he only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:14 PM   #48
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:14 PM   #49
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What a useless thread. Whoever thought Belichick wasn't running the show in New England?
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:17 PM   #50
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What a useless thread. Whoever thought Belichick wasn't running the show in New England?
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The balance of control in New England is VERY important considering Pioli is here running things without Belichek.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:17 PM   #51
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:20 PM   #52
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Fair opinion but neg rep for the racist comment. I'm sick of seeing that shit on here.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:21 PM   #53
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Again, top-notch coaching is what turns "meh" drafts into "damn, they knew what they were doing" drafts - some are questioning all the trading down the Pats did this year and missing on better prospects - they probably won't be saying that in a couple years because that staff will coach them up and ask them to do things within the scheme that play to their strengths.

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:21 PM   #54
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Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks.
Oh, ho ho haa ha ha. I get it, because Jews are tight with their money.
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The balance of control in New England is VERY important considering Pioli is here running things without Belichek.
Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:23 PM   #56
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OH MAM!... I posted a thread basically making the same point yesterday (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...46#post5708446) with just a mere possibility assigned to it (as opposed to your conviction) and I got three ugly neg reps. You'll probably get 12. Right now Pioli is God to some of the posters and your blasphemy will cost you mass stoning by the zealots here.
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Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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NICE back peddle! Your audacity amazes me more and more each day.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:24 PM   #58
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Just so you know Italian Americans - especially my wife's relatives are very frugal people, they only give up their dough to family members, and live within their means.

Maybe this wasn't the draft to go balls to the wall with trades, because we already have reshaped the team considerably this offseason, he doesn't know exactly what he's got to work with yet, and he needs to keep his ammo for next year.

Maybe Pioli was drafting within his means, until he gets a better idea of what we really have and don't have? Plus with no second, hard to move up, and no one with anything of value wanted us to move down.
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Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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Well if you're correct, that would explain Pioli's inability to move around in the draft this year. Let's just hope that his talent evaluation is better than his draft managing.

Maybe he could go back up to New England and take some "how to make a ****ing trade" classes from Belichek.
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NICE back peddle! Your audacity amazes me more and more each day.
What backpeddle. Pioli did a great job in NE and he'll do a great job here I believe.

That doesn't mean he was in charge of the Patriots, you dumbass.
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