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View Poll Results: Would you rather play the older guys or look for younger players to contribute?
We need the older guys. They provide valuable leadership. 85 82.52%
We shouldn't have signed the older guys, we should find and develop younger players and let them play. 18 17.48%
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:15 AM   #1
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You don't piss seasons away in today's NFL. It instills a losing culture in your franchise. WINNING breeds Winning. You can bet your ass Haley, and Pioli are going to try and win as many games as possible this season. You want to know why?? We have players on this team who have experienced a 4 win, then a 2 win season.
A 6-7 win season would be a HUGE boost to these guys egos, and send them into the next season feeling as though they can build on that, and improve even more.
None of these players had any faith in Herm, or this team. Except Brian Waters. Herm's yes man, and the fake ass leader that he is.

ALSO. they don't want to be picking that high ever again. Nobody does until the rookie contracts situation is fixed.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:19 AM   #2
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You don't piss seasons away in today's NFL. It instills a losing culture in your franchise. WINNING breeds Winning. You can bet your ass Haley, and Pioli are going to try and win as many games as possible this season. You want to know why?? We have players on this team who have experienced a 4 win, then a 2 win season.
A 6-7 win season would be a HUGE boost to these guys egos, and send them into the next season feeling as though they can build on that, and improve even more.
None of these players had any faith in Herm, or this team. Except Brian Waters. Herm's yes man, and the fake ass leader that he is.

ALSO. they don't want to be picking that high ever again. Nobody does until the rookie contracts situation is fixed.
I really don't see how that is any different from what we had in Carl Peterson.

Get a veteran QB. And sign a bunch of vets to fill your holes. How is that not just like Carl Peterson's strategy for years????
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:21 AM   #3
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I really don't see how that is any different from what we had in Carl Peterson.

Get a veteran QB. And sign a bunch of vets to fill your holes. How is that not just like Carl Peterson's strategy for years????
They don't have or get 5-year contracts. They are stop gaps, not long term solutions.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:27 AM   #4
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I really don't see how that is any different from what we had in Carl Peterson.

Get a veteran QB. And sign a bunch of vets to fill your holes. How is that not just like Carl Peterson's strategy for years????
Peterson HAD to sign FAs to keep the team competitive because he missed on so many draft picks. RIGHT NOW we are completely devoid of talent...........because peterson missed on so many draft picks.
We have no choice but to sign veteran FAs if we expect to win more than 2 fricken games. Once pioli has a few drafts to fill out the roster, we will be using FA for the final pieces. Not to cover our ass because none of our draft picks are even on an NFL roster, much less starting on our team.
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:27 PM   #5
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I really don't see how that is any different from what we had in Carl Peterson.

Get a veteran QB. And sign a bunch of vets to fill your holes. How is that not just like Carl Peterson's strategy for years????


thought is not your specialty, i see....have you even tried to answer your own question?
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:14 AM   #6
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This poll is flawed. It assumes Herm had a method.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:17 AM   #7
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Just because a guy is young doesn't mean the guy is good. This is why we got into the hole we are in today. If the young guy we have can beat out the veteran, great. Otherwise, why not have veterans there to challenge and push the young guys, especially the ones that suck but you don't know it yet?
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:37 AM   #8
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:35 PM   #10
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:52 PM   #12
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Edwards was one of the worst coaches the Chiefs ever had. His first season was a carry over from better times. IMO
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Herm didn't really have what you call a "method". The Chiefs were absolutely forced to go young when Herm arrived. Heck, he didn't even start the "rebuild" soon enough. Not only that, but when faced with the decision to put an old vs. young quarterback on the field, we got Humpty DumpedOnHisAss and the Amazing Nerf Ball Of Mystery.

If anything, Herm's "method" was to endlessly BS everybody until their eyes glazed over, their drool turned blue, and they started mumbling nursery rhymes. And when that stopped working, he turned to outright lies.

If he weren't such a fantastic game day coach, I'd say the guy was kind of a failure.

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Old 05-27-2009, 02:45 PM   #14
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