Chiefs Bowe Should Be Starting - Page 4

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 09:38 PM

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It’s time for the Chiefs to end their silly game with Dwayne Bowe.

In case you were actually doing something remotely entertaining and missed Saturday night’s Chiefs game, here’s the shocking news from Arrowhead Stadium – Dwayne Bowe didn’t start the game with the rest of KC’s first-team offense. Nope, the Chiefs trotted out a couple of NFL spares – Terrance Copper and Devard Darling - to complement Matt Cassel, Larry Johnson and Branden Albert.

The results, as predicted, were disappointing.

After zipping a precise 12-yard timing pattern to Copper on his first pass, Cassel’s second perfect throw was dropped (by Copper). Darling’s lone touch came on a doomed slip screen on a later third down. In about a half of football, Copper and Darling combined for two catches, 15 yards, and didn’t come close to scaring a defensive back or proving they actually deserve their “starting” jobs.

We probably shouldn’t be surprised. Both are little more than career special teams players. Copper is wearing his fourth NFL jersey in seven years. Darling spent the first half of last season in Kansas City failing miserably to beat single coverage despite the fact Bowe and Tony Gonzalez were drawing defenders.

Why were Copper and Darling starting? Supposedly, it was a motivational ploy by Coach Todd Haley, who wouldn’t mind turning Bowe into Larry Fitzgerald, the Pro Bowl receiver who flourished under his guidance with the Arizona Cardinals a year ago. It’s no secret Bowe has been dropping passes in training camp.

Bowe didn’t drop any passes Saturday night.

He got open, latched onto the ball with his incredibly strong hands again and again, and generally looked like someone who was determined to fight his way back into the starting lineup. After catching a simple hook pattern to start his night, Bowe sold out his body on KC’s next drive, diving to secure a 14-yard gain, setting up a Ryan Succop field goal.

Working with Brodie Croyle and a handful of second and third-string Chiefs, Bowe later made an incredible leaping catch down the right sideline for 18 yards. His night concluded after five catches, 70 yards, and nary a dropped pass for Haley to fume over.

Bowe didn’t appear to be a receiver who wanted to pout over his third-team sentence, ala Randy Moss. He looked motivated and hungry to prove himself. He gave Haley exactly what he was looking for – focus, flawless hands and first downs.

Did I mention all of this production came during the middle of a torrential downpour that resulted in fumbled snaps and sloppy, slippery play all over the field?

As Chiefs color man Len Dawson pointed out in the broadcast booth, “That’s pretty good for a third stringer.”

Bowe’s no third stringer, or even a backup for that matter. His performance Saturday night, and the lack thereof from Copper and Darling, should be reason enough for Haley to return his starting job immediately. Bowe might drop a couple of passes this week in practice, but demoting him again, for next Saturday’s game in Minnesota against the Vikings would be silly and counterproductive.

There’s zero reason for the Chiefs to delay developing chemistry between Bowe and Cassel. Considering their other options at receiver – none of whom showed much Saturday night – playing more mind games with Bowe is downright dangerous if the team has any plans at all to move the ball consistently this season. Getting Bowe and Cassel on the same page should be preseason priority number one from here on out.

Do we even want to think about what happens next week if no one is open while Jared Allen closes on Cassel’s blindside? And why even risk your best receiver’s health by putting him on the field deep into the third quarter of a meaningless game? You’re just asking for trouble at that point.

Just imagine if Bowe had caught the slant Copper dropped on KC’s first possession against the Texans. Maybe the offense finishes that drive out with a score, giving the fans something to cheer about other than a 48-yard field goal at the halftime gun. Maybe no one is left wondering if Herm Edwards was upstairs, calling plays for the Chiefs in the first half.

Hopefully Bowe isn’t wondering about his starting job Monday morning.

Mecca · 08-15-2009, 10:16 PM

He did a good job with Steve Breaston, the Dallas WR's I'd say push I think those guys are what they are.

I'm probably not coming from the best place with the Dallas stuff cause as soon as the Chiefs hired him a good friend of mine was like "when he was with Dallas there were all sorts of problems"

**pr_capone** · 08-15-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

uhhhh duh

ArrowheadMagic · 08-15-2009, 10:24 PM

Dallas has more problems than you could shake Haleys dick at. He was the OC, not the WR coach in AZ. Some guys are going to respond to hard ass coaches, some guys will crawl into a shell ..... If you're a head coach that wants to get everything out of every spot on the roster... you are going to see what buttons need to be pushed. Bowe needs to step up and focus.... unless you think his drops were because he isnt talented enough to make the catches? how else do you motivate him? What would Mecca the WR coach do to make Bowe better?

**pr_capone** · 08-15-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Town'NCountryChief

I'm still trying to figure out how Haley got it to rain like that...

It wasn't Haley. It was Pioli.

BigRock · 08-15-2009, 10:27 PM

Larry Fitzgerald, who just set records for the most catches and receiving yards in NFL postseason history, went up to Todd Haley after the NFC Championship game and said "thanks for keeping your foot on my throat for two years".

Haley has had his foot on Dwayne Bowe's throat for two weeks. And people are already screaming "OKAY!!! THAT'S ENOUGH!!!"

**pr_capone** · 08-15-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Larry Fitzgerald, who just set records for the most catches and receiving yards in NFL postseason history, went up to Todd Haley after the NFC Championship game and said "thanks for keeping your foot on my throat for two years".

Haley has had his foot on Dwayne Bowe's throat for two weeks. And people are already screaming "OKAY!!! THAT'S ENOUGH!!!"

but... but...

HE HAS 2K YARDS IN 2 SEASONS!!! THERE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE ANYTHING WRONG WITH HIM!!! HE IS THE BESTEST EVAH!!!!

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Larry Fitzgerald, who just set records for the most catches and receiving yards in NFL postseason history, went up to Todd Haley after the NFC Championship game and said "thanks for keeping your foot on my throat for two years".

Haley has had his foot on Dwayne Bowe's throat for two weeks. And people are already screaming "OKAY!!! THAT'S ENOUGH!!!"

You can keep your foot on a guy's throat and NOT BENCH HIM IN PRESEASON.

ArrowheadMagic · 08-15-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Larry Fitzgerald, who just set records for the most catches and receiving yards in NFL postseason history, went up to Todd Haley after the NFC Championship game and said "thanks for keeping your foot on my throat for two years".

Haley has had his foot on Dwayne Bowe's throat for two weeks. And people are already screaming "OKAY!!! THAT'S ENOUGH!!!"

Shhhhh Crayton in Dallas hates Haley..... Nevermind Boldin would come here..... Listen, if Bowe gets butt hurt over this, then Haley did the Chiefs a favor. From watching Bowe tonight, it appears the message was received..

**pr_capone** · 08-15-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You can keep your foot on a guy's throat and NOT BENCH HIM IN PRESEASON.

Have you had success coaching in the NFL?

Have you had success coaching football at ANY level?

and let the man do his job.

Haley wipes his ass with the articles you write for WPI.

ArrowheadMagic · 08-15-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You can keep your foot on a guy's throat and NOT BENCH HIM IN PRESEASON.

Yeah since Detroit went 4-0 last year in the preseason.... its that important...

LaChapelle · 08-15-2009, 10:39 PM

All that matters is how it comes out in the wash. Bowe looked skidmark free.

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Haley wipes his ass with the articles you write for WPI.

Now THAT'S insider access.

**KcMizzou** · 08-15-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

All that matters is how it comes out in the wash. Bowe looked skidmark free.

Indeed.

UsualSuspects · 08-15-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

It wasn't Haley. It was Pioli.

I am giving credit to DT, myself.

Reminded me of his most memorable picture tonight for some reason.

ArrowheadMagic · 08-15-2009, 10:40 PM

For ****s sake..... it was a preseason game. Bowe performed.... its part of earning the spot. Bowe has unlimited potential. But he has to work at it..... its the message that Haley is sending....... god forbid Haley make a player from a 6-26 team the last 2 yrs actually earn a spot.......

08-15-2009, 09:38 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4340478	Bowe Should Be Starting http://kan.scout.com/2/888768.html It’s time for the Chiefs to end their silly game with Dwayne Bowe. In case you were actually doing something remotely entertaining and missed Saturday night’s Chiefs game, here’s the shocking news from Arrowhead Stadium – Dwayne Bowe didn’t start the game with the rest of KC’s first-team offense. Nope, the Chiefs trotted out a couple of NFL spares – Terrance Copper and Devard Darling - to complement Matt Cassel, Larry Johnson and Branden Albert. The results, as predicted, were disappointing. After zipping a precise 12-yard timing pattern to Copper on his first pass, Cassel’s second perfect throw was dropped (by Copper). Darling’s lone touch came on a doomed slip screen on a later third down. In about a half of football, Copper and Darling combined for two catches, 15 yards, and didn’t come close to scaring a defensive back or proving they actually deserve their “starting” jobs. We probably shouldn’t be surprised. Both are little more than career special teams players. Copper is wearing his fourth NFL jersey in seven years. Darling spent the first half of last season in Kansas City failing miserably to beat single coverage despite the fact Bowe and Tony Gonzalez were drawing defenders. Why were Copper and Darling starting? Supposedly, it was a motivational ploy by Coach Todd Haley, who wouldn’t mind turning Bowe into Larry Fitzgerald, the Pro Bowl receiver who flourished under his guidance with the Arizona Cardinals a year ago. It’s no secret Bowe has been dropping passes in training camp. Bowe didn’t drop any passes Saturday night. He got open, latched onto the ball with his incredibly strong hands again and again, and generally looked like someone who was determined to fight his way back into the starting lineup. After catching a simple hook pattern to start his night, Bowe sold out his body on KC’s next drive, diving to secure a 14-yard gain, setting up a Ryan Succop field goal. Working with Brodie Croyle and a handful of second and third-string Chiefs, Bowe later made an incredible leaping catch down the right sideline for 18 yards. His night concluded after five catches, 70 yards, and nary a dropped pass for Haley to fume over. Bowe didn’t appear to be a receiver who wanted to pout over his third-team sentence, ala Randy Moss. He looked motivated and hungry to prove himself. He gave Haley exactly what he was looking for – focus, flawless hands and first downs. Did I mention all of this production came during the middle of a torrential downpour that resulted in fumbled snaps and sloppy, slippery play all over the field? As Chiefs color man Len Dawson pointed out in the broadcast booth, “That’s pretty good for a third stringer.” Bowe’s no third stringer, or even a backup for that matter. His performance Saturday night, and the lack thereof from Copper and Darling, should be reason enough for Haley to return his starting job immediately. Bowe might drop a couple of passes this week in practice, but demoting him again, for next Saturday’s game in Minnesota against the Vikings would be silly and counterproductive. There’s zero reason for the Chiefs to delay developing chemistry between Bowe and Cassel. Considering their other options at receiver – none of whom showed much Saturday night – playing more mind games with Bowe is downright dangerous if the team has any plans at all to move the ball consistently this season. Getting Bowe and Cassel on the same page should be preseason priority number one from here on out. Do we even want to think about what happens next week if no one is open while Jared Allen closes on Cassel’s blindside? And why even risk your best receiver’s health by putting him on the field deep into the third quarter of a meaningless game? You’re just asking for trouble at that point. Just imagine if Bowe had caught the slant Copper dropped on KC’s first possession against the Texans. Maybe the offense finishes that drive out with a score, giving the fans something to cheer about other than a 48-yard field goal at the halftime gun. Maybe no one is left wondering if Herm Edwards was upstairs, calling plays for the Chiefs in the first half. Hopefully Bowe isn’t wondering about his starting job Monday morning.
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08-15-2009, 10:16 PM	#46
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2247050	He did a good job with Steve Breaston, the Dallas WR's I'd say push I think those guys are what they are. I'm probably not coming from the best place with the Dallas stuff cause as soon as the Chiefs hired him a good friend of mine was like "when he was with Dallas there were all sorts of problems"
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08-15-2009, 10:24 PM	#48
ArrowheadMagic Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $8163465	Dallas has more problems than you could shake Haleys dick at. He was the OC, not the WR coach in AZ. Some guys are going to respond to hard ass coaches, some guys will crawl into a shell ..... If you're a head coach that wants to get everything out of every spot on the roster... you are going to see what buttons need to be pushed. Bowe needs to step up and focus.... unless you think his drops were because he isnt talented enough to make the catches? how else do you motivate him? What would Mecca the WR coach do to make Bowe better?
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BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $3095412	Larry Fitzgerald, who just set records for the most catches and receiving yards in NFL postseason history, went up to Todd Haley after the NFC Championship game and said "thanks for keeping your foot on my throat for two years". Haley has had his foot on Dwayne Bowe's throat for two weeks. And people are already screaming "OKAY!!! THAT'S ENOUGH!!!"
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ArrowheadMagic Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $8163465	For ****s sake..... it was a preseason game. Bowe performed.... its part of earning the spot. Bowe has unlimited potential. But he has to work at it..... its the message that Haley is sending....... god forbid Haley make a player from a 6-26 team the last 2 yrs actually earn a spot.......
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