Chiefs When I said I would be OK with taking Eugene Monroe at #3 - Page 4

ILChief · 08-30-2009, 08:28 PM

all I heard was that you don't take a right tackle that high. Does everyone still feel that way now that our franchise QB is a punching bag?

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

Geez...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Keisel

"Keisel was selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the seventh round (242nd overall)"

If interior and ORTs were so easy to come by, why does "genius" Pioli not have JACK to show for year 1 save a TRYOUT PLAYER?

And Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round. Are you going to tell me that QBs are that easy to come by?

The reason Pioli doesn't have to jack to show for o-line depth is that the Chiefs have almost never in the last ten years used a 2nd-4th round pick on an o-lineman. And this year was no exception.

TFG · 08-30-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Would you care to give us these historical facts?

Indeed. Pittsburgh Steelers during Bradshaw. Washington Redskins Jacoby, Grimm, Bostic, May and (Starke, Theilman, Lachey etc.). Recent Chief OLs that were good tended to stay healthy. Rams when Pace was great stayed healthy the whole year. Dallas Cowboys mid 1990s. Most teams suffer OL injuries during the year. The great OLs suffer LESS.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yes.

Esto

TFG · 08-30-2009, 09:13 PM

"The reason Pioli doesn't have to jack to show for o-line depth is that the Chiefs have almost never in the last ten years used a 2nd-4th round pick on an o-lineman. And this year was no exception."

This is hilarious. Because the Chief OL Pioli inherited just sukks means Pioli was right to ignore it, or something like that...

Good grief. For every one OT the caliber of Monroe there are a dozen players like Keisel and Tyson Jackson.

Mecca · 08-30-2009, 09:17 PM

The problem isn't that the Oline wasn't addressed with the 3rd pick, it's that it wasn't addressed in FA or the mid round picks.

Thig Lyfe · 08-30-2009, 09:17 PM

The best option was to trade down and take a RT where it's a better value. They tried to do that and nobody bit, so they went BPA. Which is the right move.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

"The reason Pioli doesn't have to jack to show for o-line depth is that the Chiefs have almost never in the last ten years used a 2nd-4th round pick on an o-lineman. And this year was no exception."

This is hilarious. Because the Chief OL Pioli inherited just sukks means Pioli was right to ignore it, or something like that...

Good grief. For every one OT the caliber of Monroe there are a dozen players like Keisel and Tyson Jackson.

Dude, learn how to use the "Quote" button.

Are you 86 years old? JFC.

WildTurkey · 08-30-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

"The reason Pioli doesn't have to jack to show for o-line depth is that the Chiefs have almost never in the last ten years used a 2nd-4th round pick on an o-lineman. And this year was no exception."

This is hilarious. Because the Chief OL Pioli inherited just sukks means Pioli was right to ignore it, or something like that...

Good grief. For every one OT the caliber of Monroe there are a dozen players like Keisel and Tyson Jackson.

Yeah just forget about Drafting any Defensive players, we have been such a dominant defensive team we shouldn't worry about it

Mecca · 08-30-2009, 09:19 PM

I won't rail on the Jackson pick you don't take a OT top 5 to play RT...

But I will rail on taking guys like Donald Washington and Colin Brown..Washington while nice value wasn't really a good pick since the Chiefs don't have a problem at CB.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

The best option was to trade down and take a RT where it's a better value. They tried to do that and nobody bit, so they went BPA. Which is the right move.

Actually, you have no factual information that they actually tried to trade down.

I don't have a problem with the Tyson Jackson pick. Pioli needed to rebuild this defense and Jackson appears to be a beast.

I have a problem with drafting Magee. IMO, one or the other, not both. I also have a problem with Washington (Carr, Flowers & Leggett don't cut it? Puhleese) and Colin Brown.

Colin ****ING Brown.

WildTurkey · 08-30-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The problem isn't that the Oline wasn't addressed with the 3rd pick, it's that it wasn't addressed in FA or the mid round picks.

This... even if you bust on a O-line pick in that round, at least your bringing in some competition, the lack of depth on this O-line is beyond awful

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

"The reason Pioli doesn't have to jack to show for o-line depth is that the Chiefs have almost never in the last ten years used a 2nd-4th round pick on an o-lineman. And this year was no exception."

This is hilarious. Because the Chief OL Pioli inherited just sukks means Pioli was right to ignore it, or something like that...

Good grief. For every one OT the caliber of Monroe there are a dozen players like Keisel and Tyson Jackson.

You can't be serious. Who do you think the Patriots value more? Richard Seymour? Or Nick Kaczur?

A 3-4 DE is basically a 4-3 DT. Many DTs are taken every year in the top 10. RTs are rarely ever taken in the top 10, unless they were LTs who failed to make it as LTs.

A 3-4 DE > 4-3 RT. That's not me speaking. That's NFL draft history speaking.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

This... even if you bust on a O-line pick in that round, at least your bringing in some competition, the lack of depth on this O-line is beyond awful

Yeah, the Chiefs should drop $30 million dollars on one player, just to bring in some competition.

WTF is going on this offseason?

Mecca · 08-30-2009, 09:23 PM

If you take Donald Washington and Colin Brown off this team and add Duke Robinson and Jamon Meredith are the Chiefs in a better position? I'd say yes.

**Buehler445** · 08-30-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The problem isn't that the Oline wasn't addressed with the 3rd pick, it's that it wasn't addressed in FA or the mid round picks.

This.

08-30-2009, 08:28 PM
ILChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $7774831	When I said I would be OK with taking Eugene Monroe at #3 all I heard was that you don't take a right tackle that high. Does everyone still feel that way now that our franchise QB is a punching bag?
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08-30-2009, 09:13 PM	#49
TFG Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	"The reason Pioli doesn't have to jack to show for o-line depth is that the Chiefs have almost never in the last ten years used a 2nd-4th round pick on an o-lineman. And this year was no exception." This is hilarious. Because the Chief OL Pioli inherited just sukks means Pioli was right to ignore it, or something like that... Good grief. For every one OT the caliber of Monroe there are a dozen players like Keisel and Tyson Jackson.
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08-30-2009, 09:17 PM	#50
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	The problem isn't that the Oline wasn't addressed with the 3rd pick, it's that it wasn't addressed in FA or the mid round picks.
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08-30-2009, 09:17 PM	#51
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	The best option was to trade down and take a RT where it's a better value. They tried to do that and nobody bit, so they went BPA. Which is the right move.
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08-30-2009, 09:19 PM	#54
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	I won't rail on the Jackson pick you don't take a OT top 5 to play RT... But I will rail on taking guys like Donald Washington and Colin Brown..Washington while nice value wasn't really a good pick since the Chiefs don't have a problem at CB.
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08-30-2009, 09:23 PM	#59
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	If you take Donald Washington and Colin Brown off this team and add Duke Robinson and Jamon Meredith are the Chiefs in a better position? I'd say yes.
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