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Old 09-14-2009, 09:01 PM  
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How much patience do you think Haley will have with LJ?
Im going to guess if LJ doesnt start performing by next weekend, he will get benched in favor of Charles or Battle.

I realize that the line is bad, but we have got to do better than 11 for 20 yards from our starting RB.


Haley doesnt strike me as the patient type......
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:55 AM   #46
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he has always been an awful blocker remember when he got trent green killed
His blocking was good in the preseason, and good against the Ravens.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:13 AM   #47
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Haley talked about LJ being a back that needs a lot of carries to get going and then he only gave him 11. LJ needs more carries to get going...simple as that. Haley knows that and he'll have patience. The offensive line is going to need time to gel and get used to playing next to one another. The offense also has to get used to Haley's system, play calling, and rhythm, so it's probably going to take LJ some time to produce.

It's hard to do anything with 11 carries though. Adrian Peterson had 25 yards in the first half against Cleveland and then went off in the 2nd half.

(Yeah yeah I know you can't compare Peterson to LJ, but the point is that you can't give up on a guy just because he isn't ripping off huge runs in the first quarter.)

Plus, we're not going to play B-more's D every week, so LJ should have better days.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:31 AM   #48
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Say we address the O-Line improving it from terrible to average/serviceable either this season by trade, however unlikely, or next season via draft and FA... do you believe that LJ will ever again run for 1k yards in a season while wearing a Chiefs jersey?
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:39 AM   #49
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Say we address the O-Line improving it from terrible to average/serviceable either this season by trade, however unlikely, or next season via draft and FA... do you believe that LJ will ever again run for 1k yards in a season while wearing a Chiefs jersey?
Hell, he would have done it LAST year if he hadn't been suspended.

So, yes.
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Hell, he would have done it LAST year if he hadn't been suspended.

So, yes.
With the O-Line improved THIS year, and I say improved because our greatest weakness on the line is now shoving McDonalds apple pies in his food hole by the dozen and e have an actual threat at QB this year so that should improve his chances as well, will he run for 1k+ this season?
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:44 AM   #51
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With the O-Line improved THIS year, and I say improved because our greatest weakness on the line is now shoving McDonalds apple pies in his food hole by the dozen and e have an actual threat at QB this year so that should improve his chances as well, will he run for 1k+ this season?
I think he will, absolutely.
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I think he will, absolutely.
Do you have a prediction of what his stat line will look like?
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Do you have a prediction of what his stat line will look like?
300 carries, 1200 yards, 10 TD. Give or take a few.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:07 AM   #54
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LJ has no vison, period.

Charles had a couple of nice runs in the preseason, and in the first game, where there was just a small seam.

Give him the opportunities, and he willout produce LJ.

Not to mention that Battle ran with far more power in the preseason than LJ.
This. If the line can't move you forward, you better move the line forward yourself, and with all you've got.

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His blocking was good in the preseason, and good against the Ravens.
Do realize how "Pollard-esque" that sounds? Tell me about LJ's 98 tackles again.
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Do realize how "Pollard-esque" that sounds? Tell me about LJ's 98 tackles again.
It doesn't sound Pollard-esque, at all.

LJ's blocking is an important part of his game. Thus far it appears he has improved it.

Being a sure tackler was an important part of Pollard's game. He didn't improve it, and now he's gone.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:14 AM   #56
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It doesn't sound Pollard-esque, at all.

LJ's blocking is an important part of his game. Thus far it appears he has improved it.
Being a sure tackler was an important part of Pollard's game. He didn't improve it, and now he's gone.
Meh. I think he just decided to do it rather than have coach shove a whistle up his ass.

I don't buy him as "bought in". If had truly done so, you'd see him giving defenders pure hell instead of just playing like it was a job.
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Meh. I think he just decided to do it rather than have coach shove a whistle up his ass.
I think, previously, the coaching staff didn't put an emphasis on it. They didn't practice it AT ALL under Herm, so it didn't shock me he sucked at it. I saw him TRYING to block all the time, but failing.

They started practicing it in camp this year regularly.

Anyway, if he gets room to run, the produces. End of discussion. Haters to shut up until someone else is making more of their opportunities. And if Haley deems LJ fit to be the feature back, EVERYONE should .
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:20 AM   #58
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:35 AM   #59
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LJ's this team's best option at HB. And we were playing the Ravens. Hello?
They're as stiff as ANY defensive unit in the league against the run.
I need to see more before I write LJ off.
It's not as though anyone else outproduced him on Sunday...

Charles can be valuable as a change-of-pace, but he's not a feature back.
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I don't see how you can make a definitive judgement about anybody playing behind the line tackle to tackle. It's shit. Nobody did anything worth talking about. Brody was the only one that did anything and the most complimentary word you could use to describe his play was efficient. Against the Ravens (who arguably have the best front seven in the NFL) you can't make a judgement about any of those skill players playing behind this abortion of an offensive line. Is LJ done and all washed up? We will see soon enough. Father Time is undefeated. The question that should have been asked is when does Haley lose patience with the offensive line and bench them? I wasn't sure who was more worthy of the term toast on Sunday......Leggitt or our franchise left tackle.
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