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Old 10-05-2009, 08:27 AM  
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Pass interference call on Page

Might be the worst call I've ever seen.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM   #46
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They've taken too much away from the defensive side of the ball. It's absurd. I want big hits. I want QBs injured for weeks. EACH player gets paid to do their job. I'm sick of the QBs getting preferential treatment.
Who cares what you want?

Did you read the SI roundtable with 5 NFL QB's earlier this year? Carson Palmer predicts that someone will be killed. Seriously.

When you've got 300 pound guys who bench press 600 pounds that run 4.7 40's (basically like 35 miles an hour) hitting QB's in the motion of throwing, it only makes sense to protect those guys.

This isn't 1960, when guys weren't nearly as big, strong and fast as they are in 2009. They didn't have nutritionists, supplements and weight training. They didn't train 365 days a year. Many had full time jobs in the off-season.

The league MUST protect these guys. To think otherwise is uninformed and tenuous at best.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:57 AM   #47
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Page did exactly what he was supposed to do. Had he let Smith catch the ball without separating him from it his coaches would have been all over him asking why he let the receiver catch it.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:02 AM   #48
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It was a great call...if they were playing flag football.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:07 AM   #49
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Who cares what you want?

Did you read the SI roundtable with 5 NFL QB's earlier this year? Carson Palmer predicts that someone will be killed. Seriously.

When you've got 300 pound guys who bench press 600 pounds that run 4.7 40's (basically like 35 miles an hour) hitting QB's in the motion of throwing, it only makes sense to protect those guys.

This isn't 1960, when guys weren't nearly as big, strong and fast as they are in 2009. They didn't have nutritionists, supplements and weight training. They didn't train 365 days a year. Many had full time jobs in the off-season.

The league MUST protect these guys. To think otherwise is uninformed and tenuous at best.


BS. Carson Palmer is a pussy. He hasn't been playing in the NFL long enough to even have a say. Its like taking advise from Jessie Palmer. I am informed, I have been watching football for 40 years. QB's that would get clotheslined by the likes of guys like D. Jones would totally disagree.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:08 AM   #50
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Sorry wrong. Check out this source.
http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1024

Still dissagree. I saw the play, saw the ref make the call. I don't think they ever thought it was helmet to helmet. Just that Page went high. It was clear he didn't lead with his helmet even in real time.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:14 AM   #51
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BS. Carson Palmer is a pussy. He hasn't been playing in the NFL long enough to even have a say. Its like taking advise from Jessie Palmer. I am informed, I have been watching football for 40 years. QB's that would get clotheslined by the likes of guys like D. Jones would totally disagree.
Yay, you've been watching football for 40 years.

Big ****ing deal.

When I was a senior in high school in the mid-80's, I could bench press 225, run a 4.7 forty and was the second fastest guy on a State Championship football team in Kansas. I weighed 160 pounds (and wasn't all that good at football, quite honestly).

Guys today are 275 pounds, bench 600 and run a 4.7 forty. The collisions can be catastrophic, leading to brain injury, early death, etc. If you think that letting men of that size and speed collide into unprotected men at will, I'm sorry, but you're ****ing moron.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:17 AM   #52
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Still dissagree. I saw the play, saw the ref make the call. I don't think they ever thought it was helmet to helmet. Just that Page went high. It was clear he didn't lead with his helmet even in real time.
That's fine if you want to disagree but the facts state otherwise. It doens't really matter in the grand scheme of things. To be a good team you have to step up when you get adversity and that is something the Chiefs do not do.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:20 AM   #53
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Yay, you've been watching football for 40 years.

Big ****ing deal.

When I was a senior in high school in the mid-80's, I could bench press 225, run a 4.7 forty and was the second fastest guy on a State Championship football team in Kansas. I weighed 160 pounds (and wasn't all that good at football, quite honestly).

Guys today are 275 pounds, bench 600 and run a 4.7 forty. The collisions can be catastrophic, leading to brain injury, early death, etc. If you think that letting men of that size and speed collide into unprotected men at will, I'm sorry, but you're ****ing moron.
You have got to be kidding me? It's football, you are getting paid millions of dollars, if you don't want to take what has been a legal hit since the beginning of football then go get a real job. The pussification never stops.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:25 AM   #54
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Sorry guys, it looked to me as if Page led with his helmet and in real time, it looked helmet to helmet.

In reality, it was helmet to shoulder pad but the bottom line is that if you don't want to get called for a personal foul, don't lead with your helmet.

Besides that, only losers complain about bad penalties. Shake it off and continue playing.
I don't even think your view of the replay is correct.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:25 AM   #55
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You have got to be kidding me? It's football, you are getting paid millions of dollars, if you don't want to take what has been a legal hit since the beginning of football then go get a real job. The pussification never stops.
I know what he's saying. Years ago it was DBs hitting WR over the middle. You have D-linemen these days that drop back into pass coverage. You have safeties who are bigger than some d-linemen 20 years ago. I think the NFL thinks, "There's not many things that will keep fans away. People actually dying on the field is one of them." It could happen. I don't think it's very far fetched at all. I thought the call was bad yesterday, but I get the actual rule.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:26 AM   #56
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Yay, you've been watching football for 40 years.

Big ****ing deal.

When I was a senior in high school in the mid-80's, I could bench press 225, run a 4.7 forty and was the second fastest guy on a State Championship football team in Kansas. I weighed 160 pounds (and wasn't all that good at football, quite honestly).

Guys today are 275 pounds, bench 600 and run a 4.7 forty. The collisions can be catastrophic, leading to brain injury, early death, etc. If you think that letting men of that size and speed collide into unprotected men at will, I'm sorry, but you're ****ing moron.


I wonder if you are the rudest prick asshole on this board? Must be because you are on a message board, since I know you would never have the balls to talk that way to someone in person. Seriously, why to you treat people like that? Did you not get enough attention as a kid? Skip the name calling there nancy before daddy has to put you over his knee.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:26 AM   #57
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You have got to be kidding me? It's football, you are getting paid millions of dollars, if you don't want to take what has been a legal hit since the beginning of football then go get a real job. The pussification never stops.
So, they're getting paid "millions of dollars" to play football, not crush a defenseless quarterback.

Big difference.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:27 AM   #58
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I wonder if you are the rudest prick asshole on this board? Must be because you are on a message board, since I know you would never have the balls to talk that way to someone in person. Seriously, why to you treat people like that? Did you not get enough attention as a kid? Skip the name calling there nancy before daddy has to put you over his knee.
You're a bigger moron that I initially suspected.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:27 AM   #59
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I don't even think your view of the replay is correct.
That may be. I'll re-watch it today but from my initial observation, it was helmet to shoulder pad.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:29 AM   #60
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I understand what he's saying, I just don't agree with it. Football is a sport that not anyone can play. I am not so much talking about QB's, I am talking about all these hits on wide outs being called. If a guy is trying to catch the ball, you better try to knock him into next week so he doesn't catch it. If it is a blatant head to head you can tell. That's fine call it, but if there is any doubt let them play football.
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