Chiefs Pioli, Here's your clue for 2010 draft - Page 4

Brock · 10-14-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

hey I like Dez Bryant just as much as the next guy but he may not even be reinstated and if that's the case he may be there in the 2nd or 3rd anyways

No way.

salame · 10-14-2009, 01:00 PM

Pit doesn't need him
NE on the other hand..............
I'm thinking dallas in the first round anyway the Jerry Jones Okie State connection

oh wait I got mixed up he loves arkansas and Oklahoman not okie state

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

Pit doesn't need him
NE on the other hand..............
I'm thinking dallas in the first round anyway the Jerry Jones Okie State connection

oh wait I got mixed up he loves arkansas and Oklahoman not okie state

Pit absolutely could use him.

Ward's not getting younger and Holmes is still not quite the guy they thought he'd be.

Beyond that, he's going to be by far and away the most talented player on the board at that point and could be had for a fraction of his worth.

The Chiefs might pass on him there (y'know, like taking Tyson Jackson at 3) but an organization with a brain in its head would NEVER let Dez Bryant fall that far.

Brock · 10-14-2009, 01:09 PM

I like your draft. I don't know how realistic it is, but I do like it.

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I like your draft. I don't know how realistic it is, but I do like it.

Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

Hoover · 10-14-2009, 01:13 PM

We all agree that that our offensive line sucks so we don't address it until our 4th pick in the draft? I hope we are not that stupid.

Brock · 10-14-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

We all agree that that our offensive line sucks so we don't address it until our 4th pick in the draft? I hope we are not that stupid.

He has them picking at OT in the second rd.

Hoover · 10-14-2009, 01:24 PM

I missed that. My bad.

I'm all for taking an impact playmaker in round one, but after that I think we need to invest in our line. The best place to grab a RT will be at the top of round 2, and we could also have our pick of interior linemen at the bottom of the round.

I would love to add a playmaker LB/DE, but I just don't think we are ready for that piece of the puzzle. We need to build our offensive line and plug and play at LB.

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I missed that. My bad.

I'm all for taking an impact playmaker in round one, but after that I think we need to invest in our line. The best place to grab a RT will be at the top of round 2, and we could also have our pick of interior linemen at the bottom of the round.

I would love to add a playmaker LB/DE, but I just don't think we are ready for that piece of the puzzle. We need to build our offensive line and plug and play at LB.

Jason Fox and J. Jerry would most likely start from day one on this roster. Fox reminds me alot like Bryant McKinnie and Jerry is one of the most underrated Guards in the upcoming draft. He's a steal in the 5th round, but like, most cases some gem O-lineman can be found a little later on draft day.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-14-2009, 04:08 PM

Bryant is an interesting choice, but given his recent behavior, I have a feeling he'll be the second-coming of Michael Crabtree. And much as it would be nice to have a playmaking receiver, how many receivers are actually difference makers? There have been so many pro bowl receivers over the years who have not played for great offenses. I actually think it's one of the lowest impact positions on the field.

I still believe if you want a playmaker, look at the two stud safeties and choose between the two. Pittsburgh's defense looks pretty bad without Polamalu. The Ravens' defense revolves around Ed Reed. In a 3-4 defense, I would argue that a playmaking safety is almost as big of a difference maker (if not moreso) than a real good nose tackle.

Jawshco · 10-14-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Bryant is an interesting choice, but given his recent behavior, I have a feeling he'll be the second-coming of Michael Crabtree. And much as it would be nice to have a playmaking receiver, how many receivers are actually difference makers? There have been so many pro bowl receivers over the years who have not played for great offenses. I actually think it's one of the lowest impact positions on the field.

I still believe if you want a playmaker, look at the two stud safeties and choose between the two. Pittsburgh's defense looks pretty bad without Polamalu. The Ravens' defense revolves around Ed Reed. In a 3-4 defense, I would argue that a playmaking safety is almost as big of a difference maker (if not moreso) than a real good nose tackle.

You make a good point about impact Safetys. I remember the Colts SuperBowl year, their D looked like crap until Bob Sanders came back, but when he was in there it seemed liked their entire D improved. I'd prefer an impact SS, LB or DT w/ our first pick. But real problem is that O-line is really hanging the rest of the team out to dry. If we can fill the O-line's needs with FA's and mid rounders, I'm all for it, but I still think it needs to be priority #1 . I also agree about WR not being an absolute key ingredient. What amazing WR's did we have in 2003? Gonzo and Priest and Kennison are the only notable ones and 2 of them aren't even WR's.

beach tribe · 10-14-2009, 04:52 PM

So does Dez have the speed we need or is he a Bowe type with more talent?

ChiefsCountry · 10-14-2009, 04:59 PM

I would stay away from Dez Bryant. He just has two many red flags mainly from where he went to school. Spread offense, OSU's WR busts (Woods, Bowman), and he is not Calvin Johnson, not even close.

Saccopoo · 10-15-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I would stay away from Dez Bryant. He just has two many red flags mainly from where he went to school. Spread offense, OSU's WR busts (Woods, Bowman), and he is not Calvin Johnson, not even close.

Agree. And add to it that he's got the taint of Neon Deon about him now...pass. If I wanted a Dez Bryant type of receiver, I'd rather go with Brandon LaFell of LSU, Arellious Benn of Illinois, Mike Williams of Syracuse or Dez Briscoe of KU.

But because we have Bowe, I think that a possession/slot receiver like Eric Decker of Minnesota would be a better addition than a #1 type guy. Hell, I'd take Kerry Meier at this point. At least the guy is a tough ass sob that can catch a ball over the middle. Probably get him cheap in the draft too. (FA/7th?)

salame · 10-15-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Agree. And add to it that he's got the taint of Neon Deon about him now...pass. If I wanted a Dez Bryant type of receiver, I'd rather go with Brandon LaFell of LSU, Arellious Benn of Illinois, Mike Williams of Syracuse or Dez Briscoe of KU.

But because we have Bowe, I think that a possession/slot receiver like Eric Decker of Minnesota would be a better addition than a #1 type guy. Hell, I'd take Kerry Meier at this point. At least the guy is a tough ass sob that can catch a ball over the middle. Probably get him cheap in the draft too. (FA/7th?)

Ideally on a team laden with talent bowe would play that possession receiver role

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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2151821	We all agree that that our offensive line sucks so we don't address it until our 4th pick in the draft? I hope we are not that stupid.
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10-14-2009, 01:24 PM	#8
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2151821	I missed that. My bad. I'm all for taking an impact playmaker in round one, but after that I think we need to invest in our line. The best place to grab a RT will be at the top of round 2, and we could also have our pick of interior linemen at the bottom of the round. I would love to add a playmaker LB/DE, but I just don't think we are ready for that piece of the puzzle. We need to build our offensive line and plug and play at LB.
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10-14-2009, 04:08 PM	#10
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1765503	Bryant is an interesting choice, but given his recent behavior, I have a feeling he'll be the second-coming of Michael Crabtree. And much as it would be nice to have a playmaking receiver, how many receivers are actually difference makers? There have been so many pro bowl receivers over the years who have not played for great offenses. I actually think it's one of the lowest impact positions on the field. I still believe if you want a playmaker, look at the two stud safeties and choose between the two. Pittsburgh's defense looks pretty bad without Polamalu. The Ravens' defense revolves around Ed Reed. In a 3-4 defense, I would argue that a playmaking safety is almost as big of a difference maker (if not moreso) than a real good nose tackle.
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beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	So does Dez have the speed we need or is he a Bowe type with more talent?
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10-14-2009, 04:59 PM	#13
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1591248	I would stay away from Dez Bryant. He just has two many red flags mainly from where he went to school. Spread offense, OSU's WR busts (Woods, Bowman), and he is not Calvin Johnson, not even close.
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