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Old 11-16-2009, 09:25 AM  
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Updated draft order from GBN...

For those of you who were wanting to know!

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(12:01 AM): Top pick on line in Monday nighter… The final weekly draft first round selection order for the opening round of the 2010 draft won’t be decided until after tonight’s Monday night game between Cleveland and Baltimore. If the Browns lose to the Ravens, Cleveland and St. Louis would be tied for the #1 overall as both teams would have the identical strength of schedule based on their opponents’ combined W-L records. In a scenario in which Cleveland loses to Baltimore, Detroit would be third in the proverbial ‘if the draft were held today’ selection order, followed by Tampa Bay, Kansas City and Oakland in the 4th, 5th and 6th spots respectively. A Cleveland win over the Ravens, though, and the Browns would drop all the way down to the 6th pick with everyone else moving up one. As usual, we’ll have the updated selection order for the 2010 draft after the tonight’s Browns-Ravens dual in Cleveland.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:04 PM   #46
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If you think we can build around Mays and DeMorrio, then I don't think you are qualified to even comment on Pee Wee football.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:07 PM   #47
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If you think we can build around Mays and DeMorrio, then I don't think you are qualified to even comment on Pee Wee football.
The way I worded that was misleading.

I'm obviously not in support of building around Mays and Demorrio as if they were the centerpiece of the defense.

What I'm saying is that I would build with the OLBs, NTs, and Safeties as Centerpieces first, then worry about the ILBs later. I meant more from a "they aren't good, but we can work around them for now" standpoint.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:10 PM   #48
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You can grab Dan Williams in the 4th-5th round to play NT.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:06 PM   #49
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Not slamming you, but where, in your opinion, do you think that next win is?
first ... i never said we would win another one.

secondly, we have a legitimate chance at winning Denver,Buffalo and Cleveland all at home.


Denver is having a rough time ... Buffalo and Cleveland aren't very good either.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:39 PM   #50
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I can not speak for Milkman, but for me, this draft should be all about defense early as it is a strong defensive draft. Then O-line like a big dog later. Add the receiver next year when there could be some very good WR's available.
I agree that we do need to go strong in this draft on D.

However, I think we have to look at who's available when we pick.

I still want Berry/Mays in the first, Selvie/Hughes with the first of our two seconds, and if Kris O'Dowd is there with the Atlanta pick, I just don't think we should pass on him.

In the third, I'd look at Mardy Gilyard, who I think brings the same things to the table as Shiply, but at that spot is a better value.

But at the same time, if Jason Fox is there, I couldn't justify passing him to take Gilyard, who I like a lot.

In the fourth, Dan Williams.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:40 PM   #51
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You can grab Dan Williams in the 4th-5th round to play NT.
It appears we are on much the same page.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:21 PM   #52
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Better than the 20th we picked every year in the 90's I suppose.
Hell no. It's just a big contract to a unknown commodity.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:33 AM   #53
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First off why the **** does any of us care what the draft picks are paid. None of us is Clark Hunt so it don't matter. That being said if you are the top of the draft grap the elite talent, you need it to win in the NFL. 2 or 3 years in the top 5 isn't a bad thing if you hit on them.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:02 AM   #54
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First off why the **** does any of us care what the draft picks are paid. None of us is Clark Hunt so it don't matter. That being said if you are the top of the draft grap the elite talent, you need it to win in the NFL. 2 or 3 years in the top 5 isn't a bad thing if you hit on them.
The one big way it does affect you is that it takes away all trade value. I'm happy that Dorsey worked out for us, but he would've also been much easier to trade if he had a much more manageable cap dollar in a year where where, in a 3-4, he wasn't nearly as valuable as he was in a 4-3.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:28 AM   #55
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http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

Our selections as of this week would be...

5th in Round 1

6th in Round 2
18th in Round 2 from Atlanta

5th in Round 3

6th in Round 4

5th in Round 5
11th in Round 5 from Carolina
15th in Round 5 from Miami
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:11 AM   #56
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Our selections as of this week would be...

5th in Round 1

6th in Round 2
18th in Round 2 from Atlanta

5th in Round 3

6th in Round 4

5th in Round 5
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15th in Round 5 from Miami
3 in the top 50 & 5 in the top 100.
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I agree that we do need to go strong in this draft on D.

However, I think we have to look at who's available when we pick.

I still want Berry/Mays in the first, Selvie/Hughes with the first of our two seconds, and if Kris O'Dowd is there with the Atlanta pick, I just don't think we should pass on him.

In the third, I'd look at Mardy Gilyard, who I think brings the same things to the table as Shiply, but at that spot is a better value.

But at the same time, if Jason Fox is there, I couldn't justify passing him to take Gilyard, who I like a lot.

In the fourth, Dan Williams.
I would be happy with....

1. Eric Berry - S
2. Jerry Hughes - OLB
2. Kris O'Dowd - OC
3. Jason Fox - OT
4. Dan Williams, NT

It honestly would be a toss-up in the 3rd if Fox and Gilyard are there. They both would be pretty much immediate starters on this team. Fox at RT and Gilyard as the slot receiver and punt/kick returner. You can't go wrong with either one.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:20 AM   #58
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I would be happy with....

1. Eric Berry - S
2. Jerry Hughes - OLB
2. Kris O'Dowd - OC
3. Jason Fox - OT
4. Dan Williams, NT

It honestly would be a toss-up in the 3rd if Fox and Gilyard are there. They both would be pretty much immediate starters on this team. Fox at RT and Gilyard as the slot receiver and punt/kick returner. You can't go wrong with either one.
As I said in an earlier post, we appear to be on much the same page.

If Fox is there in the third, looking ahead to the '11 draft (assuming there is one), I'd take him over Gilyard with the top notch WR talent coming out in '11.
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As I said in an earlier post, we appear to be on much the same page.

If Fox is there in the third, looking ahead to the '11 draft (assuming there is one), I'd take him over Gilyard with the top notch WR talent coming out in '11.
True....especially if we have a shot at grabbing Golden Tate. That kid is a playmaker....and I'm not just saying that because I'm an Irish homer.
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True....especially if we have a shot at grabbing Golden Tate. That kid is a playmaker....and I'm not just saying that because I'm an Irish homer.
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