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Old 11-24-2009, 03:13 PM   #1
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What that doesn't show is that cassel has 9 fumbles this year in 9 games
And, so does Sanchez.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:19 PM   #2
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What that doesn't show is that cassel has 9 fumbles this year in 9 games
When you're sacked this often, that is going to happen.
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:07 PM   #3
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When you're sacked this often, that is going to happen.
I'm not in a position to look it up, but Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cassel, and hasn't fumbled nine times.
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:22 PM   #4
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I'm not in a position to look it up, but Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cassel, and hasn't fumbled nine times.
NFL.com says Rodgers has 7 fumbles and has been sacked 43 times. Last year, he had 34 sacks and fumbled 10 times, whereas Cassel was sacked 49 times with 7 fumbles.
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:25 PM   #5
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I'm not in a position to look it up, but Aaron Rodgers has been sacked more than Cassel, and hasn't fumbled nine times.
Probably not. I don't think Cassel is perfect, my point is when you get knocked around as much as Cassel does, you're bound to lose the ball here and there. Rodgers has 7 fumbles. He's been sacked 43 times.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:22 PM   #6
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Cassel was the best choice.... not the only one, but the best one.

The only franchise QB available in the draft was Stafford, and the price to get him was too high. Sanchez will be a very similar QB to Cassel down the road. They were both largely backups at USC.

Cassel is taller, and was only a second round draft pick.

And, Pioli knew him. He has proven to be as advertised. He is a tough, hardworking QB. And, despite coming from a great team to a poor team, he has continued to work hard, play hard, and actually give a d@mn.

Sanchez will be a Matt Hasselbeck kind of QB, which is fine, but about the same as Cassel will be.

I think in the end, the guys who were drooling over Sanchez will be dissapointed. And, the guys who think he is going to be a bust will be proven wrong.

He will be a decent, middle of the road QB. Which is what Cassel will be. So, why spend the #3 pick on a QB with similar talent, that the GM is less familiar with?
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:25 PM   #7
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Cassel was the best choice.... not the only one, but the best one.

The only franchise QB available in the draft was Stafford, and the price to get him was too high. Sanchez will be a very similar QB to Cassel down the road. They were both largely backups at USC.

Cassel is taller, and was only a second round draft pick.

And, Pioli knew him. He has proven to be as advertised. He is a tough, hardworking QB. And, despite coming from a great team to a poor team, he has continued to work hard, play hard, and actually give a d@mn.

Sanchez will be a Matt Hasselbeck kind of QB, which is fine, but about the same as Cassel will be.

I think in the end, the guys who were drooling over Sanchez will be dissapointed. And, the guys who think he is going to be a bust will be proven wrong.

He will be a decent, middle of the road QB. Which is what Cassel will be. So, why spend the #3 pick on a QB with similar talent, that the GM is less familiar with?
If they're both going to be decent middle of the road QBs.....then I'll take the one that is younger. You'll get more use out of him.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:34 PM   #8
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If they're both going to be decent middle of the road QBs.....then I'll take the one that is younger. You'll get more use out of him.
I'll take the taller one who has proven that he is a hard worker that costs a much lower draft pick.

On a rebuilding team, I'll take the one from a winning organization that is a leader.

Also, Cassel and Sanchez both have about the same wear and tear on their bodies. There is only a 4.5 year difference between them.

And, an injury can completely end either of their careers. Cassel has eight years left. A lot can happen in eight years. Espcially since Pioli will likely draft a QB or two in the next eight years.
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:05 PM   #9
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Cassel was the best choice.... not the only one, but the best one.

The only franchise QB available in the draft was Stafford, and the price to get him was too high. Sanchez will be a very similar QB to Cassel down the road. They were both largely backups at USC.

Cassel is taller, and was only a second round draft pick.

And, Pioli knew him. He has proven to be as advertised. He is a tough, hardworking QB. And, despite coming from a great team to a poor team, he has continued to work hard, play hard, and actually give a d@mn.

Sanchez will be a Matt Hasselbeck kind of QB, which is fine, but about the same as Cassel will be.

I think in the end, the guys who were drooling over Sanchez will be dissapointed. And, the guys who think he is going to be a bust will be proven wrong.

He will be a decent, middle of the road QB. Which is what Cassel will be. So, why spend the #3 pick on a QB with similar talent, that the GM is less familiar with?
Well with you saying that, Sanchez will be a HOF then.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:24 PM   #10
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They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year.
I don't want to open a huge can of worms, but they had a shot at both of these guys. The cost may have been expensive, but a trade up could have happened. IIRC, both the Fish and the Rams were looking for trade down partners leading up to the 2008 draft, and I am not so sure the Falcons would not have moved either if the "price was right". Same for last year. I bet the Lions would have listened if Clark would have offered up a deal to swap spots.
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Old 11-24-2009, 06:33 PM   #11
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I don't want to open a huge can of worms, but they had a shot at both of these guys. The cost may have been expensive, but a trade up could have happened. IIRC, both the Fish and the Rams were looking for trade down partners leading up to the 2008 draft, and I am not so sure the Falcons would not have moved either if the "price was right". Same for last year. I bet the Lions would have listened if Clark would have offered up a deal to swap spots.
And I mentioned this before. they could of traded up, but they would of mortgaged their future. So, with a team that is rebuilding, I guess the whole concept was to give up very little value as possible and get the best QB possible (Cassel). He was the most suitable choice given the teams circumstance, situation. Matt Ryan is the best QB though imo.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:40 PM   #12
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Um... for the record, Matt Ryan is not having a 'great' year on a MUCH more talented offense. He has 500 more yards, but a VERY similar passer rating and twice as many INT's.

Again, not saying that Ryan isn't having a better year, but look at the WR's, RB... oh, and he has a pretty good TE down there too.
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