Chiefs Suh over berry if he fell to us? - Page 4

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 10:11 AM

just wondering what everyone would do if both where still there when we draft.

id hate spending three years worth of first round draft picks on DL and still suck.

Ralphy Boy · 12-30-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Glenn Dorsey is not Charles Rogers and Tyson Jackson is not Mike Williams. These players can work in this system. That argument doesn't hold an ounce of water.

It was more a reference to our continual drafting of defensive lineman.

I don't doubt that they can work in our system, I think a lot of Dorsey and always have. Not a fan of TJ but I could be wrong and I'll be the first to admit it if I am. At best I expect TJ to be an average player here. He wasn't worth the #3 pick thru no fault of his own, but he now must live up to that pick. I don't think he can but I know that Suh can and I don't think you pass on a player of his caliber because you have a mediocre player already filling the position. TJ's first year stats DO NOT compare favorably to those of any good 5 tech.

For the record I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Suh and trading him or keeping him and trading TJ. If TJ has done such a bang up job then maybe BB would be willing to give us his 2010 1st rounder.

Micjones · 12-30-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

But anywho....say we did draft Suh, would you be opposed to trading our two second rnd picks to move up and draft Mays?

Because if we could land Suh AND a top safety talent, well, that changes shit.

Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

**Bane** · 12-30-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I think if they're both on the board we'll get at least a couple phone calls.
I wouldn't trade out of the Top 5 though.

Could happen.I know I was hoping it would last year but

tyton75 · 12-30-2009, 12:26 PM

You take Suh and thank Satan he fell to you

ToxSocks · 12-30-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

But isn't Mays suppose to be a 15-25 guy? Not a top ten?

El Jefe · 12-30-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

Nah, I don't see Mays going in the top ten.

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Those two picks wouldn't be enough to move up into the Top 10.
We'd have to package a #3 as well or probably a player.

mays is not likely to go in top half of the 1st round ... why would we need to go up to the top 10.

imo Mays isn't even worth a 1st round pick

he's probably gonna end up moving to linebacker ala urlacher and will be a project of sorts.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-30-2009, 01:32 PM

You draft Suh because he makes everyone around him better.

From a former Ravens and Browns scout:

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Suh can play NT, shade, 3 tech, 5 tech or whatever else you would like him to play... he can dominate at any spot, any scheme

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/5939543225

**mlyonsd** · 12-30-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

do we really want more cornholers at arrowhead???

Heh. I bet Hunt and Payoli don't care who they are.

Titty Meat · 12-30-2009, 02:17 PM

Lets win the Holiday Bowl before we discuss drafting Suh

Mecca · 12-30-2009, 02:20 PM

The Chiefs 3-4 is nothing like the Dallas 3-4, the Chiefs are trying to build that boring NE 3-4 where big fat guys play up front and stop the run and the LB's only blitz sometimes.

The NE style of 3-4 is nothing like the Pittsburgh style or the Dallas style. And for the style this team seems to want to play, which is the boring one I might add, Suh has no spot unless you want 3 top 5 picks to rotate in 2 spots.

Mecca · 12-30-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

mays is not likely to go in top half of the 1st round ... why would we need to go up to the top 10.

imo Mays isn't even worth a 1st round pick

he's probably gonna end up moving to linebacker ala urlacher and will be a project of sorts.

**DeezNutz** · 12-30-2009, 02:22 PM

For shits and grins:

If Pioli were willing to return to the 43, would you draft Suh?

Or, are you still in favor of Berry, Clausen, etc?

Mecca · 12-30-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

For shits and grins:

If Pioli were willing to return to the 43, would you draft Suh?

Or, are you still in favor of Berry, Clausen, etc?

If we played 4-3 we'd still be hosed because Jackson could only play end in obvious run downs and Hali could only play in obvious pass downs otherwise we'd have 1 side that couldn't stop the run and 1 side that couldn't get a pass rush. And Hali with his hand on the ground against a LT isn't all that hot to begin with.

**Bane** · 12-30-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

For shits and grins:

If Pioli were willing to return to the 43, would you draft Suh?

Or, are you still in favor of Berry, Clausen, etc?

For shits and grins 2,if Suh goes 1,berry goes 2,do you pass on Clausen @ 3?

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	The Chiefs 3-4 is nothing like the Dallas 3-4, the Chiefs are trying to build that boring NE 3-4 where big fat guys play up front and stop the run and the LB's only blitz sometimes. The NE style of 3-4 is nothing like the Pittsburgh style or the Dallas style. And for the style this team seems to want to play, which is the boring one I might add, Suh has no spot unless you want 3 top 5 picks to rotate in 2 spots.
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