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Old 01-27-2010, 11:15 PM  
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CMU QB Dan LeFevour says he has had in-depth talks w/ Chiefs
I like this kid, hes big, athletic and a helluva player. wouldnt mind grabbing him if he is there in the 4th or 5th round...
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:11 PM   #46
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This seems to be Pioli's opinion if you look at his draft history (see: Brady, Tom, Cassel, Matt, Guiterrez (sp))
He was never in position to draft a QB in round 1 while in New England. They already had a 1st rounder QB in Drew Bledsoe when they lucked into Brady. Once they had Brady, why would they draft a QB in round 1?
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:14 PM   #47
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I'd grab him if he's there in the 5th. I really don't think he will be though...
If Stephen McGee jumped all the way to the 1st pick in round 4, then LeFevour probably wont be available in round 5.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:09 PM   #48
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One thing I didn't like from watching the highlights is there were only a couple plays he looked off his primary reciever. Total tunnel vision.
The Chiefs already have a $60,000,000.00 version of that.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:22 PM   #49
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You may not agree with his opinon, but is it really necessary to be such a colossal dick about it?
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Yes, for Dane it is. All others who do not agree with him are immediately flogged and degraded. It's how he rolls.
I'm sorry but I'm really ****ing sick of Chiefs fans that state that a first round QB is a risk that shouldn't be taken.

The franchise hasn't taken a first round QB in 27 years and has been pitiful because of it. The prior first round pick in 1979 was cut and helped the Bears tremendously during their Super Bowl season of 1986.

It just never ceases to amaze or piss me off how Chiefs fans can so devalue the QB position.

So the answer to your question is yes.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:24 PM   #50
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This.

I haven't been on this site that long. However, one thing I have learned is that Dane is deprived of attention...similar to that of the the middle child of 3. He most likely wears black lipstick to match his jet-black hair and charcoal eyeshadow...
Uh, no.

Clearly you didn't understand my contempt for his post, nor did you understand my response.

Try to keep up, Douchewad.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:25 PM   #51
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It's Dane's little schtick. It's kinda weird, but you get used to it and then overlook/ignore it.
I also happen to be correct.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:28 PM   #52
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Wow, Dane. You're a complete ass. Did your daddy not hug you enough when you were little? What in your world would possibly make your response acceptable? Is your mom on your case to clean your room or something?
You know, I find it absolutely hilarious that dumb****s like yourself can take a post filled with criticism directed at football opinions only and turn it into something psychological. JFC, what a ****ing pussy.



Bottom line: You're wrong. And you're clearly afraid, like so many Chiefs fans, ownership and front office, of drafting and developing a first round quarterback because he might fail.

It's dipshittery at its finest.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:33 PM   #53
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I also happen to be correct.
Oh, I agree with your original point. I was commenting on your constant, over-the-top, negative and personally insulting responses to posters with whom you disagree.

To me, it's played out, if it was ever entertaining. But I'm sure you'll keep it up for a while, so I was explaining it to the guy who actually (unsurprisingly) took offense to it.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:37 PM   #54
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Oh, I agree with your original point. I was commenting on your constant, over-the-top, negative and personally insulting responses to posters with whom you disagree.

To me, it's played out, if it was ever entertaining. But I'm sure you'll keep it up for a while, so I was explaining it to the guy who actually (unsurprisingly) took offense to it.
So if I had said that "Your opinion has no merit and is unwarranted", which has the same exact meaning, there would be a few less tender labias in the world today?

Furthermore, what Meck brought up has been discussed ad nauseam, year after year after year, with the same results and responses.

It's getting old.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:46 PM   #55
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Well, if you prefer to be viewed as a dickhead, rather than calmly and rationally explaining to someone why YOU think their opinion is wrong, then more power to you.
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:47 PM   #56
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Well, if you prefer to be viewed as a dickhead, rather than calmly and rationally explaining to someone why YOU think their opinion is wrong, then more power to you.
Often times, I prefer to be a "dickhead", especially when something has been discussed frequently over the course of the past 10 years.

Thanks!
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:13 PM   #57
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Dane, sorry to put it to ya this way, but your numbers are skewed. Lets look at the reality of first round draft QB's. There have been 58QB's drafted in the first round since 1980. OF those, only 13 have been to the superbowl. You do the math. A few went multiple times, some went and only lost. Point being that if you do the math, Ther was an 18% chance of success drafting a QB in the first round in the last 30 years and an 82% chance of failure. Chiefs fans aren't afraid, they are realistic.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:22 PM   #58
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Dane, sorry to put it to ya this way, but your numbers are skewed. Lets look at the reality of first round draft QB's. There have been 58QB's drafted in the first round since 1980. OF those, only 13 have been to the superbowl. You do the math. A few went multiple times, some went and only lost. Point being that if you do the math, Ther was an 18% chance of success drafting a QB in the first round in the last 30 years and an 82% chance of failure. Chiefs fans aren't afraid, they are realistic.
Gimme a break.

The bottom line is that if you want to win a Super Bowl in this day and age, you're far more likely to do so with a QB taken in the first round of the NFL Draft.

This isn't the 50's. Or the 60's. Or the 70's. Or even the 90's.

There are dozens of scouting websites and services. NFL teams employee five to eight or more scouts to cover the country (making that number at about 200 or so). Games are broadcast every single week in every market. The likelihood of teams missing on true, first rate, franchise QB's is minimal.

Hell, look at this year for example. Mark Sanchez took his team to the AFC Championship and was leading at one point in that game over Peyton Manning!

It's extremely unlikely that a player of that caliber slips because everyone in the NFL knows that the QB position is the most important position today.

Bar none.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:27 PM   #59
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Dane, sorry to put it to ya this way, but your numbers are skewed. Lets look at the reality of first round draft QB's. There have been 58QB's drafted in the first round since 1980. OF those, only 13 have been to the superbowl. You do the math. A few went multiple times, some went and only lost. Point being that if you do the math, Ther was an 18% chance of success drafting a QB in the first round in the last 30 years and an 82% chance of failure. Chiefs fans aren't afraid, they are realistic.
What's the failure rate for those drafted in rounds 2+ since 1980?
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:27 PM   #60
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Dane, is there something specific you don't like about LeFevour, or are you just beating the first round QB drum?
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