Boldin on the market - Page 4

bowener · 02-27-2010, 02:54 PM

Well, what is he worth in a trade? 2nd or 3rd? What will his contract have to be for any prospective team?

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Dolphins interview McCluster; Boldin on the market

The Combine is in full workout mode with offensive linemen running and jumping and pushing and pulling today. And of course, there is news.

Arizona Cardinals Rod Graves just made it official: Anquan Boldin in on the trade market.
"We're receptive to taking any calls," Graves said today. "I don't want to get into specifics but we're going to look at all the possibilities."

Alrightie then ...Let the Boldin to Dolphins speculation heat up.

I do not believe the Dolphins would give up a second round pick for Boldin. They probably wouldn't give up a third, either, because it's such a high pick in the round. A fourth-rounder?

Yes. That's the ticket.

The tight ends ran today. Pittsburgh's Dorin Dickerson ran a 4.40. He's a 230-pound tight end, but has wide receiver speed. The guy also has 34-inch arms and benched 225 pounds 28 times.

Miami tight end Jimmy Graham ran a 4.60. Jermaine Gresham ran a 4.76.

Something you should know is the latest report from aspiring scout Chris Cordero, who has been doing outstanding work checking out the talent in Indianapolis and reporting back to you.

According to Cordero, Mississippi running back Dexter McCluster spoke to the media today. McCluster said he had already interviewed with the Dolphins.

That's significant because the Dolphins loved McCluster at the Senior Bowl, spent a lot of time with him there, and clearly found nothing that eliminated the Mississippi WR-RB-Specialist from more scrutiny.

From Cordero:
McCluster measured in at [5081] and expects to run in the 4.3s. He will work at both RB and WR Sunday. He loves returning - especially punts - and says he is willing and able to cover punts as well.
You have to love any kid that says he's willing to get down field on special teams coverage. but when that player has been a star in the SEC that says something special. He doesn't feel entitled. He believes he has something to prove.
By the way, Rex Ryan talked to the media and took his usual swipe at the Dolphins. In talking about the the division he mentioned New England, Miami, and Buffalo. Then Ryan said, "I know Miami will be ticked because I never mention them first or put them on top, but I don't care."

On his infamous fingergate episode in South Florida during Pro Bowl week:
"Regardless of the circumstances I made a mistake," Ryan said. "I have to take responsibility for my own actions. I will learn from it."

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Thats why I said one of his worst years, the one other worse year was in Oakland when Matt Tuiasosopo was his QB... but hey I understand that you can't comprehend simple stuff like that.

ALSO WHEN DID HE PLAY BASEBALL? matt was the qbs brother.

RustShack · 02-28-2010, 02:24 PM

What are you talking about? The point still stands. One of his worst years in the league came when Cassel was the QB because he doesn't have the arm strength to throw the ball deep, just like his other down years, he had a weak armed QB.

RustShack · 02-28-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ALSO WHEN DID HE PLAY BASEBALL? matt was the qbs brother.

Yep, keep going after the stuff that doesn't matter because the point is right and you need something to bitch about. Is it that time of the month little fairy princess?

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Yep, keep going after the stuff that doesn't matter because the point is right and you need something to bitch about. Is it that time of the month little fairy princess?

what point is right? did you watch ANY game from that season that the pats played?

moss had 3 worse years. 04 05 06. he didnt play all out in 08 watch the games. hell some analysts are saying the same thing now.

**BossChief** · 02-28-2010, 02:38 PM

Cassels problem was overthrowing Moss more than any other issue.

Randy kinda just went into "the years already over" mode and didnt do any of the things he does with a top shelf guy throwing him the ball.

I keep saying that he has the arm to make the throws, he just doesnt have the head to.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-28-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Cassels problem was overthrowing Moss more than any other issue.

Randy kinda just went into "the years already over" mode and didnt do any of the things he does with a top shelf guy throwing him the ball.

I keep saying that he has the arm to make the throws, he just doesnt have the head to.

He does have the arm to get it there - if you're willing to wait about 3 minutes while the rainbow lands.

Ebolapox · 02-28-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

This.
I think it's funny when folks say that they would not give anything better than a 4th and likely not even that - like when was the last time the Chiefs did anything with a 4th to act like it's such a BIG deal??? Boldin is PROVEN. We all know the Chiefs could do,and have done, much worse than trading a 3rd or a 4th for Boldin.

jared allen was a fourth rounder IIRC.

**BossChief** · 02-28-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He does have the arm to get it there - if you're willing to wait about 3 minutes while the rainbow lands.

would matter if Boldin and Bowe are the WRs.

TRR · 02-28-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He does have the arm to get it there - if you're willing to wait about 3 minutes while the rainbow lands.

That utterly ridiculous. I watched him constently overthrow Moss in New England. This has already been argued. Cassel needs to improve his accuracy deep...it has nothing to do with his arm strength.

Consistent receivers will help the timing of the deep ball.
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**The Bad Guy** · 02-28-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

That utterly ridiculous. I watched him constently overthrow Moss in New England. This has already been argued. Cassel needs to improve his accuracy deep...it has nothing to do with his arm strength.

Consistent receivers will help the timing of the deep ball.
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How many times did Chambers have someone beat only to have Cassel hang a rainbow up?

You've wheeled out just about every excuse you can for him.

I didn't know consistent receivers helped arm strength. Good to know.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-28-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

would matter if Boldin and Bowe are the WRs.

With Boldin and Bowe, all he's throwing is intermediate routes and letting them run after catch.

I think Boldin would be perfect because we could play the short passing game that Weis perfected with Troy Brown and David Givens.

**Saul Good** · 02-28-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's had TWO seasons where he amassed 1,300 yards: 2003 and 2005

He is NOT a 1,300 yard guy. In KC, he'd be lucky to 1,000 yards behind this line, with this QB and with Dwayne Bowe on the other side.

Furthermore, he IS a number two receiver. PERIOD.

If he's your number one, your team is ****ED. Why? Because you're number one receiver is a speed guy that can separate downfield for big plays.

Who was the #1 Receiver for Arizona when he had those two 1,300+ yard seasons?

Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, and even Jerry Rice are/were just possession receivers, right?

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who was the #1 Receiver for Arizona when he had those two 1,300+ yard seasons?

Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, and even Jerry Rice are/were just possession receivers, right?

sorry but i have yet to see ANYONE call fitz or johnson possesion wrs.
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**BossChief** · 02-28-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

With Boldin and Bowe, all he's throwing is intermediate routes and letting them run after catch.

I think Boldin would be perfect because we could play the short passing game that Weis perfected with Troy Brown and David Givens.

Ill probably catch heat for this one too, but I would rather have a guy like Fred Barnes or Demitreus Thomas with that fourth rounder or spend a little more and get a guy like Golden Tate at 2a. We are young and need a possession receiver, but AB isnt the right guy there. We have a lot of our own kids that have contracts coming up and Id like to know that a guy like Boldin doesnt ruin it for them.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-28-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who was the #1 Receiver for Arizona when he had those two 1,300+ yard seasons?

Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, and even Jerry Rice are/were just possession receivers, right?

Are you a dummy in real life or do you just play one on the internet?

02-28-2010, 02:24 PM	#47
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3036954	What are you talking about? The point still stands. One of his worst years in the league came when Cassel was the QB because he doesn't have the arm strength to throw the ball deep, just like his other down years, he had a weak armed QB. __________________
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1755912	Cassels problem was overthrowing Moss more than any other issue. Randy kinda just went into "the years already over" mode and didnt do any of the things he does with a top shelf guy throwing him the ball. I keep saying that he has the arm to make the throws, he just doesnt have the head to. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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